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Ironhawk September 17th, 2008 03:42 PM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho (Post 638157)
If you want a SC then not. If you want them for their magic paths, stealth, or some other ability (automatic heat from hell, seducing commanders) they might be.

This is totally untrue.

With the exception of the Goat Sun, all the Demon Lords make awesome SCs courtesy of thier high HPs, high MR, extremely strong magic, and built in flying. Psycho must not like them since they dont have full slots - but the thing is that thier magic is so strong that they can more than make up for a single lost slot with buffs of thier own.

Psycho September 18th, 2008 01:22 AM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
I didn't mean to say that they can't be good SCs, just that seraphs and chayots are much better ones, so you will wish for one of those rather than the demon lord if you want a SC.

Hoplosternum September 18th, 2008 01:51 AM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
What happens if you wish for someone elses Demon Lord? Do you get it? And do you get its stuff? If so by depriving your enemy of a powerful SC and giving it to yourself you may be gaining more than if you wished for a Seraph even though that is probably a better SC.

K September 18th, 2008 02:32 AM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
The thing to remember is that the Demon Lords are all endowed with special powers, and as such they all have a weird niche uses.

Take the Lord of the Plague Wind. He walks into battle with a free Storm, and he's immune to it. He has a very high Precision, but he doesn't have a head so you can pop in an Eye of Aiming and it just raises another eight points.

Essentially, if you need to toss down a Hellbind Heart or a Thunder Strike that won't miss, then this is go to guy. If you need a flying strike-force SC who can survive a Wrathful Skies and enemy evokers and still wail on enemies then he's the one.

Add that kind of utility to the fact that each demon lord is a peice of rainbow and opens new magics and summons, they are big noise.

K September 18th, 2008 02:33 AM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoplosternum (Post 638984)
What happens if you wish for someone elses Demon Lord? Do you get it? And do you get its stuff? If so by depriving your enemy of a powerful SC and giving it to yourself you may be gaining more than if you wished for a Seraph even though that is probably a better SC.

Yes, and yes. It's crazy fun.

Psycho September 18th, 2008 09:48 AM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
Actually no, you don't get it. You teleport it to the province of your caster. But you can still kill it that way and at least deprive your enemy of it.

thejeff September 18th, 2008 10:11 AM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
Or Enslave, Charm or Hellbind it.

Tricky if it's decked out with SC MR gear, but doable.

Tifone September 18th, 2008 02:16 PM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
It would be fun if even when you wish for an artifact already in use, the (angry) carrier himself is brought to the province ^^

Ironhawk September 18th, 2008 02:37 PM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho (Post 639033)
Actually no, you don't get it. You teleport it to the province of your caster. But you can still kill it that way and at least deprive your enemy of it.

It does teleport to the province in question. Be careful tho that domes protecting that province may interfere with the teleport action.

K September 18th, 2008 03:41 PM

Re: Wish for a Demon Lord
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhawk (Post 639059)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho (Post 639033)
Actually no, you don't get it. You teleport it to the province of your caster. But you can still kill it that way and at least deprive your enemy of it.

It does teleport to the province in question. Be careful tho that domes protecting that province may interfere with the teleport action.

Whoops.... forgot to mention that part. This is why I shouldn't post late at night.


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