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Xietor September 30th, 2008 06:36 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.1
 
I know i just mind hunted a couple in Kingmaker. Either I passed the mr check or it does not work on death spells. It does not work on enslave either unless my mage passed the mr check on bv 2 about 7 times.

AreaOfEffect September 30th, 2008 07:23 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.1
 
I did some BV testing several weeks back, mostly to see how high I could get it.

-The blood vengeance spell does not stack with existing BV, instead the caster simply casts a different spell.

-The Flesh Ward actually grants a +2 bonus to BV. Those units without BV get only +1 because the first bonus is used in granting them the ability. This is consistent with how awe and fear stack.

-Paralyze damage does not trigger BV as far as I know.

AdmiralZhao September 30th, 2008 08:06 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.1
 
What about trampling? I've got some Angels of Fury, and my opponent has some elephants.

Xietor September 30th, 2008 08:14 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.1
 
I would say give it a go. What have you got to lose? They cannot do any worse than the harbinger. muhahahahahha.


Actually Admiral is a very very good player. I am just giving him a hard time. He has taken half my empire. I was surprised the awe on the harbinger seemed to have so little effect on the elephants as well.

AdmiralZhao September 30th, 2008 08:38 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.2
 
Heh, thank you for the kind words Xietor. I couldn't resist trying for your elephants; I hoped the combination of Awe + Fear + HeartSeeker would let the angel massacre the entire herd. Unfortunately, your Sleeper put a quick end to that Angel's career. I suppose the lesson here is to do a bit more scouting before sending your thugs off to face enemy armies.

JimMorrison September 30th, 2008 08:58 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect (Post 641857)
-Paralyze damage does not trigger BV as far as I know.


Someone chain cast Paralyze on a Vastness of mine some time back. Out of a million casts, at least 2 stuck on the Vastness, and none of his casters got Paralyzed.

Who was that again? ;)

AreaOfEffect October 1st, 2008 12:57 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.2
 
Thanks once again for bring up that painful memory. But yes, that is exactly how I know that paralyze doesn't bounce... yet mind blast does. Sigh...

Eh, I'm just kidding. It wasn't all that painful as I'm sure you had expected to win that battle by a much larger margin.:)

JimMorrison October 1st, 2008 03:17 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101 v.1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect (Post 642008)
Thanks once again for bring up that painful memory. But yes, that is exactly how I know that paralyze doesn't bounce... yet mind blast does. Sigh...

Eh, I'm just kidding. It wasn't all that painful as I'm sure you had expected to win that battle by a much larger margin.:)

Oh it would have been great to be left with more than 1 "man" sieging that castle - but, not as much fun. :p

DonCorazon August 5th, 2009 11:31 PM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101
 
Any updates on the above post? It was a compilation of anecdotal reports, but would be nice to clarify / confirm.

MaxWilson August 6th, 2009 01:19 AM

Re: Blood Vengeance 101
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 641694)
flesh ward is not unique, just rarely used :)

Are you perhaps thinking of the Armor of Souls? Flesh Ward is B5 and Const-8.

-Max


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