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Micah November 19th, 2008 10:01 PM

Re: Dominion Spread Utility: Questions
 
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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 653996)
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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 653970)
Temple spread is almost certainly after preaching.

I also had a mystery dominion point in Artifacts on turn 2, where I had more candles on turn 2 than I possibly could have (3 for pretender, 1 for VP, 1 for home, 1 for temple, 1 for prophet and 1 starting for a total of 8, but I'm fairly certain I had 9 candles on turn 2 of the game.) Not a huge deal, but indicative of a possible bug.

No dom lucky event in turn 2? You mean more candles that should have been possible in a single province? Or more candles total around your cap?

If you had a lucky event in a province you didn't own but you had dominion in, you could get a dominion increase without the message. Just like barbarians popping up in to join an indy army when you've got misfortune.

More in total. And I'm pretty sure I didn't have any events, I can check later.

I base my assertion that preaching comes before temple spread on a few observations. One of the most notable ones was getting dom-killed in Rand Redux despite having a pile of bakemono shaman preaching on my sieged cap temple, which had a few candles of mine in it to start. My opponent didn't have significant amounts of priests there, but he did have prophet and pretender...I preach to my max of 3 dom and then his 4 checks knock out my remaining candles, otherwise his checks would have knocked me down to 0 or -1 but my 8-10 preachers should have easily been able to get that back to a positive amount...I'm assuming dom-death isn't checked until the end of the turn since that's when the message arrives, as opposed to mid-phase, though I guess that could throw things off.

vfb November 19th, 2008 11:37 PM

Re: Dominion Spread Utility: Questions
 
Here's a few things I just tested:

- You can preach to above your max dominion, if your priest level is higher than your max dominion. I created a H4 priest in a test game with just a Dom-2 god. I've had 9 white candles on my province.

- Then, in a temple province with two white candles, I had 20 H1s preach. The dominion only went up to 3. I expected 4 ... but it looks like multiple low-level priests do not raise dominion above the maximum for that priest type. I though perhaps it would do a check for each, and then add up the points.

JimMorrison November 20th, 2008 01:00 AM

Re: Dominion Spread Utility: Questions
 
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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 654309)
- Then, in a temple province with two white candles, I had 20 H1s preach. The dominion only went up to 3. I expected 4 ... but it looks like multiple low-level priests do not raise dominion above the maximum for that priest type. I though perhaps it would do a check for each, and then add up the points.

Well that's unexpected. I had seen it go higher before, but I suppose in each case, it must have been slop-over from other temples. That's good to know.


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