Originally Posted by legowarrior (Post 665383)

Personally, the thing that strikes me about the Agartha is there how similar they are to the atlantians. Never stop growing, live hundreds of years and very similar paths in magic. Oh and don't forgot the amphibianism part of it.
Are they an offshoot of atlantis that grew underground?

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 665385)

Agarthans truly are an enigmatic race. They spend their time in apparently cold caverns and rarely see the sun, yet they are cold blooded and prone to fatigue because of this. It doesn't help that one of their strengths, the fact they are amphibious, sees them running into the common cold 3 dominion of underwater races, all of which will school them in the water anyway.

Agarthans are one eyed with very poor precision and are clumsy in battle, with terrible attack and defense. They are however very strong. So with typical agarthan logic, they bring glaives to battle, which give malus to attack and defence and do high damage. So if they hit something (which they don't) it's double dead. But surely they'll hit /something/ you cry? Well it certainly 'helps' that they are size 3 or 4 and so suffer from being swarmed and being unable to swarm back. But surely their armour is excellent? In their ancient wisdom agarthans have elected to wear relatively high enc armour with unimpressive protection, knowing as they do that they are so effectively shielded by their tower shields that they need not worry about missile weapons. I jest of course, what agarthan would be seen with anything bigger than a buckler? It's sheer madness.

I don't think there's any question as to why they end up extinct. Along with draconians, they are the dodos of the dom3 world.

Originally Posted by Humakty (Post 665421)

I found that, in EA, you can expand quite rapidly with a nice bless, can't remember exactly, but something along the lines of f9/x6/x4. Not game winning, but it can bring you to the point where your summons take over the serious battles.

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 665385)

Agarthans truly are an enigmatic race. They spend their time in apparently cold caverns and rarely see the sun, yet they are cold blooded and prone to fatigue because of this. It doesn't help that one of their strengths, the fact they are amphibious, sees them running into the common cold 3 dominion of underwater races, all of which will school them in the water anyway.

Agarthans are one eyed with very poor precision and are clumsy in battle, with terrible attack and defense. They are however very strong. So with typical agarthan logic, they bring glaives to battle, which give malus to attack and defence and do high damage. So if they hit something (which they don't) it's double dead. But surely they'll hit /something/ you cry? Well it certainly 'helps' that they are size 3 or 4 and so suffer from being swarmed and being unable to swarm back. But surely their armour is excellent? In their ancient wisdom agarthans have elected to wear relatively high enc armour with unimpressive protection, knowing as they do that they are so effectively shielded by their tower shields that they need not worry about missile weapons. I jest of course, what agarthan would be seen with anything bigger than a buckler? It's sheer madness.

I don't think there's any question as to why they end up extinct. Along with draconians, they are the dodos of the dom3 world.

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 665455)

Well I agree that KO is well aware the Agarthans are a tragic race.

But you imply that a glaive is somehow better in a cave, or that Agarthans do better there. They don't. They suck outside of caves and they suck inside them (in the extremely rare case where there is a cave on the map and agartha gets to fight in it).