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Suicide Junkie September 27th, 2001 11:20 PM

Re: OT: Enterprise...What did you think?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>and what was up with the plates going off line. Hope they fix the science up in that one. Or does armour go off line???????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I take it this way:
- hull plating is ionized
- particle beams hit; the particles would tend to drain away the ion charge.
- When the officer says the plates are off-line, he just means the plate charge has been depleted, and the "power armor" is normal armor now.

Assuming that ionizing the hull plates has any defensive value, and that the atmosphere of the gas giant dosen't sap the charge faster than the bitty weapons fire.

Deathstalker September 27th, 2001 11:27 PM

Re: OT: Enterprise...What did you think?
 
Except for one little, itty, bitty problem this is the Trek I have been waiting YEARS for...

The good: the ship, the people who actually seem COMFORTABLE in their roles (unlike the 1st season of any startrek series), the 'rustic' look, THE vulcan!!, the doctors wierd smile http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif (man that was wide!!), the dog!!, the effects....

The BAD: 'PHASE-pistols'????? ISTR that in the first episode of the Original series they were using LASERS!!, Phasers were not invented yet! (Shatner refers to it in one of his books, the day the Enterprise actually got phasers.....think it was one of the recent ones...) Other than that small little quibble I loved the show....Sam...err...I mean Archer was great!

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mottlee September 28th, 2001 01:19 AM

Re: OT: Enterprise...What did you think?
 
I did not get to seeall of it, about the Last 1/3 what I saw was good and yes the people need to grow into the people they play but I still liked it I like Star Trek, Star Wars have not read any of the books tho

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Coal September 28th, 2001 02:20 AM

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The 'Phase-pistol' thing could be explained by saying they're an eary experimental Version. They seemed to be normally issued some type of Plasma pistols and rifles. Maybe they went from plasma to phase to lasers to phasers. Some weird political/economical/scientific reason.

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Baal September 28th, 2001 04:34 AM

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Sheesh people. From the sounds of most of the Posts on here it looks as if we have 10 people right in this forum that could make a better show.

Frankly I am tired of being a critic on everything there is in this world. If you dislike parts of this show don't watch it, or even better, make your own show and prove just how good your show making skills are.

I don't write this to insult, but to say that it is easy to tear down someone elses work and say you could make it better. And I write this to say that many of these little trivialities are stupid to criticize. Phaser, Phase pistol, who really cares what they call them (hell, they could call them Muskets and I wouldn’t care), they are just names. The names really have no part in the technology.

Another small thing that people have mentioned that I would like to address is the musical choice. I think it sets the mood nicely. It's nice to hear some lyrics for once. If I wanted to hear an orchestra I would go listen to one in person.


My point is that there are people who work there butts off to make an entertaining show and I don't think it is our place to cut it apart due to the little things like music, words, or plot line (I thought the time travel was refreshing and not overbearing). After all it is just a show, made to entertain. It was not made to tell history, or teach chemistry.

Although watching a human rub down a Vulcan was very educational (joke).

DISCLAIMER: This post is not directed at any one person, or group of people. It is just an opinion anyway and it’s not as if anyone forced you to read it.

Suicide Junkie September 28th, 2001 04:52 AM

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Frankly I am tired of being a critic on everything there is in this world. If you dislike parts of this show don't watch it, or even better, make your own show and prove just how good your show making skills are.

I don't write this to insult, but to say that it is easy to tear down someone elses work and say you could make it better<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey, its just fun to pick out oddities, and then try to find reasonable explanations for them.

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Transporters: Anybody know where/when they originated? (ie. vulcan tech, or homegrown on earth?)

arthurtuxedo September 28th, 2001 05:23 AM

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The only major thing I would complain about is the transporter. They should have either introduced it later as an unpredictable, new technology, or better yet, left it out entirely. Also, the Klingons are a bit too stereotyped, but I love the way the Vulcans are given more personality (they actually get angry and raise their voices). Cast seems pretty good, especially Scott Bakula. Not a big fan of the doctor, though, seems too reminiscent of the technobabbling blowhards of other ST shows.

dogscoff September 28th, 2001 09:44 AM

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QUOTE:
When's the Last time you heard someone born in the late 20th century use a curse word like "Zounds" or "Egad"?
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Never, but I'm going to start right now.

Egads!


(Unless you count The Brain of "Pinky and The Brain".)

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geoschmo September 28th, 2001 02:49 PM

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>My point is that there are people who work there butts off to make an entertaining show and I don't think it is our place to cut it apart due to the little things like music, words, or plot line (I thought the time travel was refreshing and not overbearing). After all it is just a show, made to entertain. It was not made to tell history, or teach chemistry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bur Baal, poke and criticize is what we Star Trek fans do best. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Those of us that have been fans for years really enjoy this kind of thing. It gives us a sense of being a part of a community. And it looked to me like every post in thread had positive as well as negative things to say about the show.

Star Trek is not just another show. It's Star Trek.

Truth be told I am sure that the people who "worked their butts off" making it would be happy to hear us talking about it. At least that means we are watching it. Even if we don't always agree with the way they are taking "our show" in every circumstance.

One of the things about Star Trek fans that aggravated non Trek fans the most is the way we nit pick the details to death, and then reason out discrepancies between episodes and shows. For example: TOS Klingons had no cranial ridges. Then along comes Star Trek TMP in 1979, and "Klingons got ridges!". Of course it's just makeup. And the real reason for the difference is that in the 60's on a shoestring budget the producers couldn't spend a bunch of money on makeup every week. But Trek fans have had lots of fun over the years discussing the differences, and trying to explain them in a way that would fit with the "reality" of the show.( http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6559/klingon.html) Of course now that the "Enterprise" Klingons have ridges, we are going to have to modify our understanding, again. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

dogscoff September 28th, 2001 03:14 PM

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Conspiracy theory #7650127/B/3 Alpha

I've heard a few people say things like "Well, it sucks, but I know I'll watch it anyway because it's Star Trek."

Maybe the arly episodes of TNG contained subliminal Messages, compelling viewers to watch every Star Trk franchise at every opportunity, no matter how bad it is. I know I do.

If I'm not back on Monday, you'll know I was right and that they got me...

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