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licker March 4th, 2009 06:42 PM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
I like Tirs assassins personally, but they have a limited window of opportunity, unless your opponent has no access to lightning immunity.

Even then they can spam some ghost warriors and hope :)

Oh, and if you actually put anything on them, they yeah, even betterness!

Ornedan March 4th, 2009 07:24 PM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 678153)
Pretty sure this is WAD. Returning isn't meant to return you if you're killed by having nowhere to retreat to.

Pretty sure it's a bug. Or rather an interaction not thought through properly.
Ritual of Returning is supposed to take you home if you are damaged. Dying from having nowhere to retreat implies you get caught and killed. Which implies damage happening at some point.
And if one wants to think about it sensibly, if you're under RoR and have nowhere to retreat to, just cut yourself or drop a rock on your foot. Or something. Successfull retreat right there.

Sombre March 4th, 2009 07:40 PM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
Well if you want to think about things sensibly there's a huge amount of stuff in dom3 that makes no sense at all (like a flier dying when escaping from an assassination, as a random example). But most of it is WAD, not a bug.

vfb March 4th, 2009 07:42 PM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
New Dom3! With emo scripting!

(Summon Earthpower)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Cut Self)


With RoR if you are insta-killed, you don't return. Retreat into enemy territory equals capture and decapitation.

JimMorrison March 4th, 2009 07:52 PM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 678164)
New Dom3! With emo scripting!

(Summon Earthpower)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Cut Self)


With RoR if you are insta-killed, you don't return. Retreat into enemy territory equals capture and decapitation.

Seriously, I would stab myself in the leg, before I was caught. :p Right in the meaty part of the thigh, with conviction. It's just a flesh wound!

Fate March 4th, 2009 10:53 PM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 678168)
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 678164)
New Dom3! With emo scripting!

(Summon Earthpower)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Cut Self)


With RoR if you are insta-killed, you don't return. Retreat into enemy territory equals capture and decapitation.

Seriously, I would stab myself in the leg, before I was caught. :p Right in the meaty part of the thigh, with conviction. It's just a flesh wound!

Would you also stab yourself in the leg when the Flying SC cuts off your escape route and laughs as your measly 8 health is overcome by their fire shield?

JimMorrison March 5th, 2009 02:10 AM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fate (Post 678203)
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 678168)
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 678164)
New Dom3! With emo scripting!

(Summon Earthpower)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Blade Wind)(Cut Self)


With RoR if you are insta-killed, you don't return. Retreat into enemy territory equals capture and decapitation.

Seriously, I would stab myself in the leg, before I was caught. :p Right in the meaty part of the thigh, with conviction. It's just a flesh wound!

Would you also stab yourself in the leg when the Flying SC cuts off your escape route and laughs as your measly 8 health is overcome by their fire shield?

Yes. I can only stab myself in the leg for 2HP (I am a flimsy mage!), so why would I even take a swing at the guy with an 8dam Fire Shield? I just want to go home!

Meglobob March 5th, 2009 03:01 AM

Re: Retreating into enemy territory
 
It is WAD and is a needed mechanic in Dom3. Otherwise, Dom3 would be spoiled by everyone going for returning mages that were effectively unkillable and could slaughter entire armies without chance of dieing.

If you think about it, what you are argueing for is immortality in enemy dominion. Not good, not good at all. It would be a worse exploit than the air mage/air queen casting Mists of Deception then retreating, which so, so many people complained about.


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