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Dragar April 21st, 2009 02:06 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
really? why is that? I had no idea

Calahan April 21st, 2009 02:24 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Not really sure why, but my guess is that it's like that to stop abuse. As a S10 bless would give 22MR before anything else is considered, which could lead to a lot of SC's having 35+MR. That would take some getting through.

Easy enough to test as well. Just create a S4/6/8/10 pretender for any nation with native MR18 units (eg.Ashdod) and turn one into a prophet. You'll see -

Basic MR 18
+1/2/3/4 Bless
Current MR 18.

Would post a screen shot, but sadly don't have access to Dominions in work :(

Dragar April 21st, 2009 02:29 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 687042)
Would post a screen shot, but sadly don't have access to Dominions in work :(


Sucks don't it? Work would be much more fun..

So is 18 a fixed limit passed which the bless won't take you, or if you had say 15 MR could you get to 19? Or just those with a native 18 are specifically penalised?

rdonj April 21st, 2009 02:48 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
You just can't get past 18 with the bless.

Jarkko April 21st, 2009 03:42 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Tomb Kings have MR 18? I would have been ready to bet my head they have 16... Luckily nobody suggested such a bet...

JimMorrison April 21st, 2009 05:42 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Also beware as far as Sacred thugs/SCs go, this is very important- even on a prophet, or using a Shroud, and even when using combat magic that is applied -after- the Bless effect, the Bless effect is factored in LAST, so if you push past 18 through any other means whatsoever, you lose the benefit of the Astral bless.

It's painful, really.

Executor April 21st, 2009 05:57 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 687042)
Not really sure why, but my guess is that it's like that to stop abuse. As a S10 bless would give 22MR before anything else is considered, which could lead to a lot of SC's having 35+MR. That would take some getting through.

Easy enough to test as well. Just create a S4/6/8/10 pretender for any nation with native MR18 units (eg.Ashdod) and turn one into a prophet. You'll see -

Basic MR 18
+1/2/3/4 Bless
Current MR 18.

Would post a screen shot, but sadly don't have access to Dominions in work :(

Another problem with this, if you have a MR 16 commander and say 6 astral bless,+2MR since you can go up to 18 with a bless, and put an anti magic amulet, you won't be able to use the bless, it won't have any effect.
So instead of having 16+2+4, it'll be just 16+4 MR.
That's stupid IMO.

JimMorrison April 21st, 2009 07:34 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
You type slow. <3

Executor April 21st, 2009 07:41 AM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Hm, didn't actually notice this last post of yours...:o

Viajero January 6th, 2010 04:57 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Going to play LA Ctis soon, anyone willing to post some key aspects about it?

1- recommended bless, yes no? the manual sugegsts LE Ctis is not suited for bless? why is that?
2- Main thugs
3- Key research paths
4- Key units/mages
5- Short, medium, ong term strategies

Any help appreciated!


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