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iCaMpWiThAWP

April 22nd, 2009 09:28 PM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

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Originally Posted by Marcello (Post 687373)

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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 687270)

IF they are engineer tanks they can demolish buildings

Not really. You can ram them against a building and they will demolish it and get stuck (nearly always, especially if stone buildings) in the ruins. They behave exactly like every other vehicle in this regard. Game wise it does not make any difference if it is a pick up or a D9.

Hum... so i must be lucky, i don't usually have my dozers stuck in buildings, i think its easier to get immobile on stone, wood is rather fragile :D

DRG	April 23rd, 2009 06:30 AM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

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Originally Posted by Wdll (Post 687419)

So, basicaly engineer tanks are useless and you might as well get a mineclear tank if you can, instead of an engineer tank, right?

No......... did you not Andys read post ???

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Engineer tank class clears D/T better than Mine-clear tank class

and Mikes test a few posts back demonstrates that

Don

Wdll	April 23rd, 2009 06:53 AM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

Sorry, not enough sleep last few days. :doh:

Marek_Tucan

April 23rd, 2009 10:04 AM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

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Originally Posted by Wdll (Post 687419)

So, basicaly engineer tanks are useless and you might as well get a mineclear tank if you can, instead of an engineer tank, right?

Or vice versa mineclear tanks are useless ;)

Suhiir

April 23rd, 2009 11:52 AM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

Personally I prefer engineer vehicles to mine clearing ones.
Engineer vehicles generally have a dozer blade rather then a flail or roller thus get bonus to their front hull armor, particularly VS HEAT ammo (i.e. the hordes of RPG's the AI tends to have).

Hermit

December 30th, 2009 12:10 PM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

Shouldn't the flails or rollers provide the same extra protection from HEAT rounds? IIRC, the Israeli Merkava has chains dangling from the turret overhang specifically to provide protection from HEAT warheads that might otherwise hit the vulnerable turret ring.

Mobhack

December 30th, 2009 12:41 PM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

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Originally Posted by Hermit (Post 724105)

Before posting, it would have been easier to open up Mobhack and actually have a look at some Mineclearing vehicles. This would have answered your query in just a few seconds.

E.g. see the USA OOB, units #194, 196, 197, 198, 199, 616, 653, 685, or USSR OOB - e.g #491, 492 etc.

Easily found by selecting File-> Database Check Utilities, then pressing the Unit Checks button, and then selecting unit class 36 in the Find Units tab, or entering mine into the search box if you did not know the class number.

Compare and contrast the front HEAT armour of these units with the standard gun versions.

Andy

Kartoffel

December 30th, 2009 01:26 PM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

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Originally Posted by Marcello (Post 687373)

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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 687270)

IF they are engineer tanks they can demolish buildings

From the newest patch of SPWW2:

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 722043)

3) Engineer type vehicles that deliberately rubble a building will show markedly less chance sticking when "bulldozing" buildings than regular tanks do.

It seems reasonable to assume that they will make this change to SPMBT in the next patch. As of now the engineer vehicles have no special demolishing powers.

iCaMpWiThAWP

December 31st, 2009 10:37 AM

Re: CEV's and Dragons teeth

I'd better keep my 120mm guns firing on those buildings then. :)

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