Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

The Lewis is clearly much better than the bren. Imperial starship troopers still use them in star wars, albiet painted white.

Best Regards Chuck.

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

Eh. Im not trying to nitpick, I was just remarking that within the game stats, it doesn't make sense for the British army to have switched to the Bren :)

Like I mentioned, the factors that made the Bren superior aren't modelled in Steel Panthers, and thats okay, given that it'd be rather tedious to keep track of which squads had a jammed gun or whatnot.

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

Pick up a BREN - not much heavier than an SLR, a quick change barrel, and a magazine half as heavy again as an SLR.

Then pick up a Lewis, at least twice the weight, and a non-changeable barrel. Pity the poor guys who had to load an overwing Lewis on an SE5 in WW1 in a 120+ MPH gale...

Not modelled in SP games. But then again - at this battalion scale we really only should have Rifle, SLR, SMG, Assault Rifle, LMG. No pesky pistols - irrelevant. No individual names - an SMLE is exactly the same as a Kar98 at this scale. Just like normal 1/300 tabletop wargames rules handle small arms. The difference in stats of a point here or there are just meaningless trivia that only serve to bring out the train spotters really :).

Andy

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

Hah. Your right :)

I guess part of it is that Steel Panthers kind of tries to do everything from reinforced battalion down to a company of guys.

In the end, gamers always want more details than what is really required (or logical for the situation)

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

Pity the poor guys who had to load an overwing Lewis on an SE5 in WW1 in a 120+ MPH gale...

I think it was mounted on a kind of track so that the pilot could pull it back into a semi-vertical position and change the mag from a sitting position.

Regards,
Warwick

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

Make sure you do not get distracted while doing so or you may find other options available

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

I think this is how it goes. Effectiveness of AA gun fire, 2%. Effectiveness of SAMs 8%. Effectiveness of the Ground 100%.

troopie

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

at least fiddling the machine gun is a step up from pulling out a revolver and taking pot shots at the other guy :)

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

While on the subject of Lewis and Bren guns.

I noticed that the LMG Sections in the British OOB are all three man teams.
Shouldn't they be two man teams?

I remember using these a while back, and being surprised how quickly they were spotted and eliminated. Having only a two man section would sure help, and I'd think it would be more realistic.

Units:
482 (Lewis) LMG Section
483 (Bren) LMG Section, early
484 (Bren) LMG Section, late

cheers,
Cross

Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?
 

Dont think the number of men effects spotting its the size rating that counts. When using them against unpinned infantry do not use all the shots every one increases your chance of being spotted.