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Executor August 25th, 2009 06:27 AM

Re: Some thoughts on EA Pangaea with CBM
 
I like the CW strategy, but you can't have it up before turn 14 really, well not with a dormant pretender.

Jarkko August 25th, 2009 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Executor (Post 707079)
I like the CW strategy, but you can't have it up before turn 14 really, well not with a dormant pretender.

I might be wrong, but in my experience Luck scale affects when dormant pretenders wake up. With Luck 3 (and Carrion Woods without Luck 3 is really not worth it) I've always had the pretender wake up turn 12 latest (usually turn 10 or 11), while with Misfortune 2 I've never had a dormant pretender wake up before turn 12 (usually turn 13). Maybe it's just been a fluke, but it has seemed to me pretty consistent.

Executor August 25th, 2009 10:05 AM

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I'm pretty sure that dormant pretenders wake after 1 full year and sleeping between 2-3years, but I might be wrong.

Jarkko August 25th, 2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Executor (Post 707102)
I'm pretty sure that dormant pretenders wake after 1 full year and sleeping between 2-3years, but I might be wrong.

Dormant pretenders wake up at turn 10-13. Imprisoned are released on turns 28-42.

chrispedersen August 25th, 2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarkko (Post 707046)
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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 707030)
Sure, but thistle maces are *easy*.

Easy enough to research during the first 10 turns?

Absolutely...

its only 100 research. 7/14/21/28/35 = 5+1 = 6 turns to research it. Even with money problems you ought to be able to whip it out by turn 10 no problem.

vfb August 25th, 2009 05:47 PM

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It's level 4: 40+60+100+160=360 research, not 100.

chrispedersen August 25th, 2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 707166)
It's level 4: 40+60+100+160=360 research, not 100.

Really? I just looked it up on Snoddermans... Thistle mace is Con 2 in vanilla..

chrispedersen August 25th, 2009 07:11 PM

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[quote=chrispedersen;707163]
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Originally Posted by Jarkko (Post 707046)
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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 707030)
Sure, but thistle maces are *easy*.

Easy enough to research during the first 10 turns?


Hmm... 10!=55*7= 385 - so even at con 4 its feasible.
55*8= 440..

Its even not that bad a path for pan with legions of steel, etc.

vfb August 25th, 2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 707171)
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 707166)
It's level 4: 40+60+100+160=360 research, not 100.

Really? I just looked it up on Snoddermans... Thistle mace is Con 2 in vanilla..

I'm not sure what Snoddermans is, but if it says a Thistle Mace is Con 2 in vanilla, it's wrong.

vfb August 25th, 2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 707163)
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Originally Posted by Jarkko (Post 707046)
Easy enough to research during the first 10 turns?


Hmm... 10!=55*7= 385 - so even at con 4 its feasible.
55*8= 440..

Its even not that bad a path for pan with legions of steel, etc.

On your maenads, right? :) Also, it's E3, and you've only got a ~1.5% chance of hiring an E3 Pan.

I can't see how you're going to have any money left for expansion if all you do the first year is hire Pans to research const-4. Unless you are lucky, I don't even know how you'll have enough money for hiring a Pan a year.


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