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Snipey September 13th, 2009 04:16 AM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
What is "hot swaps"?

Mobhack September 13th, 2009 05:17 AM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
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Originally Posted by Snipey (Post 709967)
What is "hot swaps"?
If you want to play a Korean war campaign as UN, you have the problem that although China came in later, at first it was all NK. So you would need 2 long campaigns to do it right.

The code has been set up so that you can set up your campaign with china in an OPFOR slot, but it will treat the "China" OPFOR as a NK choice till the appropriate point in time. It thus "hot swaps" NK for PRC till the yalu time. After whatever time that is then if china is chosen, you get PRC as normal.

Andy

Wdll September 13th, 2009 08:14 AM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 709974)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snipey (Post 709967)
What is "hot swaps"?
If you want to play a Korean war campaign as UN, you have the problem that although China came in later, at first it was all NK. So you would need 2 long campaigns to do it right.

The code has been set up so that you can set up your campaign with china in an OPFOR slot, but it will treat the "China" OPFOR as a NK choice till the appropriate point in time. It thus "hot swaps" NK for PRC till the yalu time. After whatever time that is then if china is chosen, you get PRC as normal.

Andy

Can this be done for a generated campaign? If not, any chance of having it as an option in the future?
It would be great to be able to set when (by date or number of battles) you are finished with one opponent and fight the next one. (of the 3)

Mobhack September 13th, 2009 08:19 AM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
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Originally Posted by Wdll (Post 709983)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 709974)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snipey (Post 709967)
What is "hot swaps"?
If you want to play a Korean war campaign as UN, you have the problem that although China came in later, at first it was all NK. So you would need 2 long campaigns to do it right.

The code has been set up so that you can set up your campaign with china in an OPFOR slot, but it will treat the "China" OPFOR as a NK choice till the appropriate point in time. It thus "hot swaps" NK for PRC till the yalu time. After whatever time that is then if china is chosen, you get PRC as normal.

Andy

Can this be done for a generated campaign? If not, any chance of having it as an option in the future?
It would be great to be able to set when (by date or number of battles) you are finished with one opponent and fight the next one. (of the 3)
Absolutely not. It had to be hard-coded in the first place for the one special case.

Andy

Wdll September 13th, 2009 10:11 AM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
Too bad, ok thanks.

Snipey September 14th, 2009 02:28 AM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 709974)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snipey (Post 709967)
What is "hot swaps"?
If you want to play a Korean war campaign as UN, you have the problem that although China came in later, at first it was all NK. So you would need 2 long campaigns to do it right.

The code has been set up so that you can set up your campaign with china in an OPFOR slot, but it will treat the "China" OPFOR as a NK choice till the appropriate point in time. It thus "hot swaps" NK for PRC till the yalu time. After whatever time that is then if china is chosen, you get PRC as normal.

Andy
So how would I go about setting it up? In other words, what would I click? I'm sorry for being such a newb at the tech stuff.

Mobhack September 14th, 2009 12:56 PM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snipey (Post 710083)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 709974)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snipey (Post 709967)
What is "hot swaps"?
If you want to play a Korean war campaign as UN, you have the problem that although China came in later, at first it was all NK. So you would need 2 long campaigns to do it right.

The code has been set up so that you can set up your campaign with china in an OPFOR slot, but it will treat the "China" OPFOR as a NK choice till the appropriate point in time. It thus "hot swaps" NK for PRC till the yalu time. After whatever time that is then if china is chosen, you get PRC as normal.

Andy
So how would I go about setting it up? In other words, what would I click? I'm sorry for being such a newb at the tech stuff.
Set up your LC with your chosen UN nation as the player at the appropriate date (SKorea or USA at the start date when Nkorea attacks, UK, Turkey etc start a few months later).

Now set up the 3 opponents as either NKorea or PRC China in the proportion you want for the later phase of the Korean war (say PRC as 2 choices, NK as 1).

In the early battles, the game will substitute any internal PRC choices as North Korean, till the winter of 51 when the PRC "volunteers" came over the border. Then the normal choice will resume.

Andy

FASTBOAT TOUGH September 14th, 2009 01:53 PM
Re: A General Question about ORBATs
 
I've been thinking about setting up a long campaign for The Korean War. This confirms how I thought it should go and clears up for me how the AI would "react" to the campaign setup.
Thanks and with Regards,
Pat


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