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Edi September 17th, 2009 04:42 PM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
I would like to state here that it depends on what you mean by the term.

I can be considered a veteran in terms of Dominions 3 knowledge and insights into parts of the game. I am definitely a veteran mapmaker and have above average knowledge of modding, though not as much practical experience as some of the more prolific modders (e.g. Sombre, Burnsaber, Amos and others).

This often translates into people mistakenly ascribing me veteran status as a Dom3 multiplayer, when I actually have all of one MP game under my belt and would get crushed flat in no time even by people who only have a few games under their belt.

If we're talking strictly MP games, some of the names mentioned above and even posting in this thread are a good start but by no means an exhaustive list.

Foodstamp September 17th, 2009 10:08 PM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 710745)
I would like to state here that it depends on what you mean by the term.

I can be considered a veteran in terms of Dominions 3 knowledge and insights into parts of the game. I am definitely a veteran mapmaker and have above average knowledge of modding, though not as much practical experience as some of the more prolific modders (e.g. Sombre, Burnsaber, Amos and others).

This often translates into people mistakenly ascribing me veteran status as a Dom3 multiplayer, when I actually have all of one MP game under my belt and would get crushed flat in no time even by people who only have a few games under their belt.

If we're talking strictly MP games, some of the names mentioned above and even posting in this thread are a good start but by no means an exhaustive list.

That's pretty interesting considering your near inflammatory stance on the use of Mists of Deception in multiplayer games. ;)

atul September 18th, 2009 12:29 AM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
You don't need to be a master chef to say that the food is bad. Luckily that behaviour is fixed and the thing is of the past.

I never liked the idea of a group of vets, implying that with experience comes great skill. Some people learn fast, other never. A post count tells only that you post a lot, and if I started with Dominions: PPP it only means I've learned a lot of bad habits I should forget already.

If there must be a group that knows better, let us call them Illuminati.

archaeolept September 18th, 2009 12:44 AM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
also, due to some bizarre accident of racial make-up, Finns get an automatic +1 to veterancy.

:)

true fact

Jarkko September 18th, 2009 01:30 AM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 710809)
also, due to some bizarre accident of racial make-up, Finns get an automatic +1 to veterancy.

Wohoo! I am a 1-point veteran!

The times thanked is btw one way to look who are veteran, or at least post insightful ideas. If somebody has been thanked about fifty times, I for one consider their posts to be usually informative even before I read the actual post :)

Burnsaber September 18th, 2009 01:43 AM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarkko (Post 710816)
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 710809)
also, due to some bizarre accident of racial make-up, Finns get an automatic +1 to veterancy.

Wohoo! I am a 1-point veteran!

The times thanked is btw one way to look who are veteran, or at least post insightful ideas. If somebody has been thanked about fifty times, I for one consider their posts to be usually informative even before I read the actual post :)

Wohoo! I'm informative!

Lingchih September 18th, 2009 01:51 AM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
I am a vet, if you would have it so, at least by my post count. I have played dozens of MP games. That said, I suck at the game itself, and have only won one game, and that was a team game. It's a very experiential thing, to try and count the true vets.

Edi September 18th, 2009 02:29 AM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foodstamp (Post 710787)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 710745)
This often translates into people mistakenly ascribing me veteran status as a Dom3 multiplayer, when I actually have all of one MP game under my belt and would get crushed flat in no time even by people who only have a few games under their belt.

If we're talking strictly MP games, some of the names mentioned above and even posting in this thread are a good start but by no means an exhaustive list.

That's pretty interesting considering your near inflammatory stance on the use of Mists of Deception in multiplayer games. ;)

Well, there is that. :)

With some things you don't need to have the experience in order to be able to see the implications, especially if you're familiar with many of the mechanics of the game. That one had such obvious implications that I had no problem taking a firm position on it, just based on how I would have felt about either using it myself or having it used against me in a hypothetical situation.

Some other issues have allowed me to form an opinion on a similar basis. I do read MP related posts (such as Baalz guides, which are geared toward that), but my actual practical MP experience is just that one game.

Sombre September 18th, 2009 08:41 AM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
I'm not a vet.

I think being thanked a lot only shows that you write posts that people who like to thank like. I have seen some seriously worthless exchanges between people where they were just thanking eachother alternately.

I try to offer people an appropriate level of help (which sometimes means RTFM) but because I don't gift wrap feelgood answers to stupid questions I don't get thanked a lot. Also I'm a bit of a ****.

Gandalf Parker September 18th, 2009 12:00 PM

Re: Who here is a Vet?
 
Some of the most ancient of players would definitely be "veterans" but far from any "expert opponents" list. Im not sure that would meet your needs anyway.

For the purpose of the original post I think you might have wanted to ask for people who are consistent winners in a specific type of game. Veteran lists in the past have often aimed toward kill-all games with CBM on medium maps. Since its a team game being created you might want veterans with proven histories in the areas of diplomacy and allied play which I think would be a very different group. In fact I can only think of maybe 1 or 2 people that I would ever consider for both lists. :)


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