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Micah February 9th, 2010 12:58 AM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
All attacks benefit from the F bless.

There is a bug with the F9 fire bless with weapons that have more than one attack (such as the sword of swiftness) that causes the weapon damage to be entirely replaced with the bless bonus damage on all swings but the first. Separate weapons still work, such as the jaguar warrior's bite/claw/claw routine since they come from different weapons. Just a minor factoid.

chrispedersen February 9th, 2010 01:56 AM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
I've seen the fire bless effect.
However, it begs the question -doesn't the same thing happen on the death weapons.

If so 2+An is even suckier.. No CBM gloves of the gladieator for you!

Trumanator February 9th, 2010 02:05 AM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
The Flaming weapons/Death weapons effects overwrite all the secondary effects of weapons as well correct? As in no aoe frost for you with the frost brand!

militarist February 9th, 2010 02:53 AM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
Is fire bless also 2+ pierсing magiсal , as far as I remember? And it lools worse then Death bless then? Is it better by any reason in something?

militarist February 9th, 2010 03:46 AM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
And one more question about death bless. I read it works with weapon, and not magiс..But I though maybe it works with some kind of magiс, like blade wind , etс? How to understand of death bless will work or not with a spell?

militarist February 9th, 2010 03:53 AM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
And how muсh deсreases defenсe of the defendant if he gets seсond weapon hit from attaker?

WingedDog February 9th, 2010 05:37 AM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
Fire bless adds +4 armor piercing damage countered by fire resistance.
Death bless adds +2 armor negating damage countered by magic resistance.

Not sure about affictions caused by combat magic, manual tells bless gives bonus to it, but I never really paid attention, I usually want my enemy dead, not wounded. :) I'm pretty sure units you would like to cause affictions to wouldn't be harmed by blade wind at all.
There was a test by Calahan proving death bless does not affect ritual damage spells.

Each atack decreases defender's defence by two.

chrispedersen February 9th, 2010 12:43 PM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
ER

I'm fairly sure that the deathweapon is 2 + DRN AN damage.
Meaning 2 pts + 2 open ended die damage, which is armor negating resisted by magic.

I'm less sure, but I believe the secondary effect of fire is a 6pt secondary attack, not 4 pt.

Torin February 9th, 2010 12:45 PM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
well its 2 damage average really. The 0 protection oponent mus roll for protection even then. DRN
ive read fire bless doing 6pts of fire damage. Enemies with 12 protection will match that value (armor piercing) and more protected foes will take little damage from it.
Niefel giants will take damage more often than not because of the fire weakness 6pts act as 9. Only prot 18 will match that.

Gregstrom February 10th, 2010 05:34 PM

Re: Some newbie Qs
 
On that last part...

It'll probably be better than that against niefels. I rather think the 50% vulnerability will apply to the DRN as well.

btw, I think average damage for the D9 bless is >2. There's a lower limit to the possible bamage caused, but no upper limit.


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