Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Kydnides. 15 for 10 in CBM. Very hard to kill with awe.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Yes, but I was asking for other type of units, one that really looks like a green or black tree of some kind with tons of HP, last time I saw it it was Pythium using it in LA aganist my Utgard giants as a defensive wall, cant quite recall the name...

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Dark vines. They're a blood+nature summon.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Yes! thanks.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Vine ogres are a much cheaper, easier to mass meat shield (or wood shield, in this case), than Dark Vines.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Except that the ogres have abysmal MR (5). You also might want to look into crossbreeding if you don't mind losing the units. If you want something that doesn't break easily, try crushers and lumber constructs, they are not too cheap though.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Summon Animals?

Or drakes with dragon master.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Summon animals gets you, well, animals. Which are low hp and not all that useful.

Drakes are kind of a joke among experienced players. But I've used them, and they do serve their purpose. Fire drakes are probably the best, but Cave drakes are tough, and do not usually rout.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

i like the summon snakes spell for meat shield. size 4 and decent hp and mr 12 makes them good magic decoys to protect high gold units like knights. spells will tend to target the snakes more than your knights. being poison resistant and having a decent morale is a bonus. use the snakes as magic decoys and shield infantry to decoy arrows.

Re: Most efficient form to summon Trolls in big numbers?
 

Vine ogres were the best early to mid-game summoned walls in dom2, but in dom3 I haven't had much luck with them.

For seriously large quantities of trolls in games that lack mass producible clams, massed troll kings might be worthwhile - IIRC they produce earth gem income that more than makes up for their gold upkeep.

Wights look okay to me if you don't mind the chill, not just as walls but as an actual main line unit of battle, but I haven't tried using them much.