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chrispedersen May 2nd, 2010 10:22 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Peter actually has it right. The problem isn't in the rain of stones (per se) its the Verdun strategy.

Now, sometimes, in late game you have to employ verdun tactics. But 90% of the time you do not.

In the 10% of the time that you do, I have one suggestion for you.

LOTS of troops. By stretching the board out, and putting your bloodslaves on the corners, you can cause them to be outside the area of effect of BF or BE spells. (Never remember which it is).

For the other 90% of the time, I'd advise you to use this motto. Move aggressively, attack defensively.

In otherwords - move to lightly guarded provinces that the opponent will feel compelled to attack you.. And then use that communion's first turn strategically.

Maerlande May 2nd, 2010 10:28 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Not Blood Slaves!

Soyweiser May 2nd, 2010 10:29 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 743437)
Peter actually has it right. The problem isn't in the rain of stones (per se) its the Verdun strategy.

Verdun strategy? What is that?

(And yeah, I know getting horribly offtopic. I get it ;) :D).

Squirrelloid May 2nd, 2010 10:35 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 743444)
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 743437)
Peter actually has it right. The problem isn't in the rain of stones (per se) its the Verdun strategy.

Verdun strategy? What is that?

(And yeah, I know getting horribly offtopic. I get it ;) :D).

Your demeanor is insufficiently sombre!

Verjigorm May 2nd, 2010 10:36 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Additionally, Pythium's Communicants should be generally regarded as "disposable" since in any prolonged battle they are almost ensured to die since they have no magic paths.

Fortunately, they always have Communion Slave active, so if you put Master Matrices on your Masters you can cast a defensive spell on the first round. This generally requires a defensive posture--you need to make him attack your communion by putting it in the way of the thing he wants or guessing his target. This can be difficult as communicants, unlike other types of communions, do not have the ability to teleport/cloud trapeze.

Verjigorm May 2nd, 2010 10:42 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
If I saw 150 communion slaves in a province, I would cast Flames from the Sky on it...

That seems to be a rather poorly thought out strategy since... yes, it can kill anything it encounters, but... it's so very weak. Any wide area of effect spell (especially Rain of Stones, Earthquate, etc.) can destroy it.

It can't attack since you'd be giving your opponent first chance to cast spells, so it can only be postured defensively.

If your opponent can see it, any overland evocation will crush it, and if he can't see it, he's blind because it probably took 20 turns to make.

Beckoning or FFtS ftw

krpeters May 2nd, 2010 10:49 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
I think the problem here is that the original poster is playing a monkey race. He says he had an army of 100 Yogis (S1). What else can Bandar Log do with non-cap mages to take out large enemy armies? Spamming paralyze with cheap mages seems to be his best option.

Maerlande May 2nd, 2010 10:50 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Argh.

I give. You win. Without a giant post explaning the entire game I couldn't possibly explain it.

Peter Ebbesen May 2nd, 2010 10:50 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maerlande (Post 743430)
Do I need advice on how to keep my 140 member communions alive? Not really. The other 5 in this game are fine.

I would beg to differ. If you are running around with 140 member communions without having equipped them with armour and fire/frost resistance equipment, it seems very likely that you either don't know how to keep them alive and need advice or you are unusually blessed with enemies, who don't take advantage of the weaknesses you present them with.

Alternatively, you are using your so-called "irony" again, which seems to stand for "wasting other peoples' time".

Maerlande May 2nd, 2010 10:51 PM

Re: Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.
 
Oh hey. Thanks krpeters. Exactly. It's BL. Troops suck. And you get a yogi for every 4 crappy bandars. Why not use use yogis? It's cheaper and much less upkeep. Burn em if you have to. They cost no more than some nations sacreds.

And it's a rich game. All my 25 provinces are forted and templed. So I make 25 yogis a turn.


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