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A B1 warrior sorceress leading a 4 man communion would be the easist solution.

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Originally Posted by RadicalTurnip (Post 744637)

Also, Insane Commanders will rarely, but sometimes declare themselves your prophet, gaining H3 status, but no dominion spread.

Of course, then they're still insane...

I believe this only works for LA Rlyeh, although I could be wrong.

Certainly tarts never randomly become "prophets" due to insanity induced by their shattered soul.

I've noticed that as well, and what I assumed happened was that "Shattered Soul" was much like insanity, but not the same, I haven't actually played *as* Ryleth yet (so the prophet thing is hearsay) but what I assumed happened was that Shattered Soul had different weird things like "Build a Mausoleum" and stuff, and didn't include "Become Prophet" or, probably, a few other things.

Has anyone had a non-Tart "Build a Mausoleum"? or some of the other weird ones they do?

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Originally Posted by RadicalTurnip (Post 744793)

I had a indy commander with the gift of kurgi, say: "The stars are right" and "Ftagn". Both references to Lovecraft of course.

If I remember correctly, the remote attack spell imprint souls provides an insane priest commander. I've never had the commander become a prophet unless playing LA R'yleh. But then, I haven't cast it all that much.

I think Shattered Soul does have a different list of actions.

All the other sources of insanity seem to produce the same actions as R'lyehs. Except that non-R'lyeh commanders don't become prophets. I've had plenty go insane from R'lyeh's influence and never gotten a prophet out of it.

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Originally Posted by RadicalTurnip (Post 744793)

Has anyone had a non-Tart "Build a Mausoleum"? or some of the other weird ones they do?

Interesting. And what does "Build a Mausoleum"?

To earaxecare:
Yes, that's what I meant: pure priest doesn't get bonuses.
As for Sauromatia-only summons - I don't remember. Among general 2 were already mentioned and I think that there are a few more. Not remember right now. But both death and astral summons Sauromatia can do.

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Originally Posted by Wrana (Post 744804)

Among general 2 were already mentioned and I think that there are a few more. Not remember right now. But both death and astral summons Sauromatia can do.

To be clear - the imprint souls commander/priest is only H1 (I was answering re: the tangent on insanity.) However, you could also do Hidden in Sand, which gives you an H2 dust priest (albeit very expensively.)

Other, marginal options:

1) Wish :-P
2) Ritual of Rebirth to return a prophet of yours that's been killed.

I assume this is for Divine Blessing?

Androphags and Oiorpata are both Cap-only sacreds, so their numbers will generally be quite limited. The best thing to do would be to put multiple Warrior Sorceresses among them and then order them to cast Bless until the units are out of casting range. You'll get a good percentage of them.

The two best ways of getting H3 have already been mentioned (Mound Fiend and Sabbath Slave War Sorc), but it isn't necessary to have a B1 Warrior Sorceress. An alternative is the Master/Slave Matrix depending on the type of communion you're forming. I would say that a Reverse Communion led by a Soothsayer with some kind of bow (If he casts spells, he'll fatigue/kill your WS):

1 Soothsayer (Master with Bow like BBoB scripted to Fire @ Rearmost)
3 Soothsayer (Slave)
1 Warrior Sorceress (Slave Matrix)

This will allow your WS to use DB and whatever other magic she has without fatiguing the other participants in the communion. If she was an N1 for instance, she could waste your slaves off-script when she started spamming non-Astral magic.

With the reverse communion, the 3 Soothsayer slaves can cast Soul Slay while you get some DB and Smite action off your WS.

Plus, this basic communion structure can also be combined with your Witch Kings, Enaries, and Spirit Guides (Slave Matrix, please) to augment your other magic.

The only problem with implementing this is finding Earth magic in Sauromatia. Therefore, you'll want at least a pretender who can make the matrices. Besides, a 4E bless would be lovely anyway to reduce encumbrance on your sacred armies and Witch Kings and gives access to hammers. The Earth magic limitation to this strategy will confine it to the realm of novelty unless you pick up something cool in the way of magic sites to recruit ES mages from (High Temple of the Magii?).

Other than that, I would confine your view to alternatives to blessing. What magic can I use instead?

I want to be looking at things I can do easily:

Quickness, Body Ethereal, Luck/Battle Fortune/Will of the Fates, Regeneration, Touch of Madness,

You could do a combo like Poison Ward and Foul Vapors (maybe with Hydra guards) or Winter Ward/Grip of Winter.

These are just ideas I pulled out of my rear for the purposes of example only, btw, I haven't played Sauromatia extensively.

I assume you intend your Soothsayer Master to cast PotS to boost Holy? Are Warrior Sorceresses H2s? I don't remember.