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Burnsaber May 11th, 2010 01:27 PM

Re: When to Penetrate
 
Well, when talking about penetration in dom3, When? is just not enough. Who? is just as a crucial question when thinking of "When?", especially if we are following pygs excellent guideline on penetration.

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Originally Posted by pyg (Post 745188)
I've always advised doing so whenever the opportunity presents itself.


So what we are trying to achieve is to penetrate as much as possible. Because most penetration effects in dom3 almost always take the guy out of the fight (effects like confusion and unconsciosness are common), it's not advisable to penetrate the same target over and over. Thus you should aim to penetrate as much targets as possible in as short amount of time possible. And different types of targets are more/less difficult to penetrate in dom3. Penetrating elemental king of the earth is pretty difficult for example, so I wouldn't go after it without very special equipment like the rod "Rune Smasher" or the artifact staff "Flailing Hands", which grant a bonus for penetration. Also remember that Undead are also harder to penetrate than most mortal units so it's not advisable to go after them unless you really have to.

If you are seeking to penetrate as much as possible, you need to select your targets wisely. Ulmish units are easy to penetrate due to their national trait. If no Ulm nation is present, the "Caveman" independents are also easy to penetrate. Also, in dom3 universe, animals are also easy to penetrate and this also includes the walking apes of the "Bandar Log" nations, if you are into that sort of thing.

Also, oddly enough, wearing the eye of void also makes *you* easier to penetrate, which could prove to be really painful if the tables are turned. Probably has something to do with ties the to tentacled horrors of the void. Good equipment for penetration is also the "rainbow armor" which makes you harder to penetrate and gives you reinvigoration so that you can do more penetration attemps.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist

elmokki May 11th, 2010 02:02 PM

Re: When to Penetrate
 
I personally find the amazon units most pleasant to penetrate. I don't discriminate though. Like pyg said, you should strive to penetrate whenever possible, so even tentacle monsters and whatever are doable.

Blood slaves are pretty easy to penetrate if you can't penetrate anything else.

sector24 May 11th, 2010 08:53 PM

Re: When to Penetrate
 
Don't forget to wear your armor of virtue or you may accumulate afflictions and some cannot be healed by the faery queen.

Rookierookie May 11th, 2010 08:59 PM

Re: When to Penetrate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sector24 (Post 745326)
the faery queen

Also a prime target for penetration.

Makinus May 12th, 2010 07:10 AM

Re: When to Penetrate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookierookie (Post 745327)
Quote:

Originally Posted by sector24 (Post 745326)
the faery queen

Also a prime target for penetration.

But extremely hard to find in the field, as most players tend to keep her in their castles to be able to use the most of her abilities...

RadicalTurnip May 12th, 2010 08:24 AM

Re: When to Penetrate
 
Quote:

Like pyg said, you should strive to penetrate whenever possible, so even tentacle monsters and whatever are doable.
I've always found the tentacle monsters difficult to penetrate, instead, most of my units get penetrated by them instead.

Quote:

Ulmish units are easy to penetrate due to their national trait.
Unfortunately, I'm playing Ulm...I've lost whole armies to other people's penetration. I just want to fight back.


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