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Re: newbie question: trample ability

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Originally Posted by Joelz (Post 759256)

Does anyone happen to know if the trampled unit's weapon lenght affects trampling effectiveness?

It doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 759249)

Edit: looking into it, I think using mino vs troglo isn't that smart. The mino has 25 hp, and prot 4. So 2 trample attacks kill them (does around 30 damage). Sure 2 minos hitting back will hit for around 2x 16+ battle axe damage (don't know that think something like 7). Which isn't always enough to kill the troglodyte with 37 hp prot 9. And this depends on hitting first. A mino costs 40, a trog 50. In a straight up fight, I think a equal cost amount of trogs would win.

Also, a mino has attack 8, and a trog def 9. So that gives around 50% chance of hitting. All in all, not that good odds.

Minotaurs are berserkers, troglodytes not. So if the troglodyte tramples the minotaur once, the minotaur gets very very angry (gaining amongst other things +4 to attack and strength, so they will hit the troglodytes easily *and* deal some serious pain). In an equally-valuable-regiments -situation the troglodytes will most likely (despite their high morale) take enough damage to break before all minotaurs are dead (in fact I believe a minotaur regiment should be able to whack even a somewhat larger trogldoyte regiment usually), and at the end of the day it is those who stay on the field who win the battle.

Re: newbie question: trample ability

This is purely anecdotal and not tested (I will test when I have slightly more time myself), but don't size 4 units have significantly more trouble trampling size 3 units over size 2 ones? WingedDog mentioned the manual factors total unit size in damage calculations, but is it possible it's size difference that determines the damage?

Again, I've just noticed in my games and read in some AAR reports that size 3's don't die so quickly against chariots and such. Of course that could be accounted for by other stats of the units in question.

So who's gonna save me some testing time? :)

Re: newbie question: trample ability

I will :). The reason it seems that way is because more size 2s occupy a square than size 3s, so more units take damage per "step" of the trampler. Also, size 3s on average have more HP than size 2s, making them last a little longer.

Re: newbie question: trample ability

Ah right, so tramplers hit all units in a square on each 'step'. Missed that one. Thanks for the answer!

Re: newbie question: trample ability

and many size 3 units are mounted, having higher defense.