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llamabeast June 29th, 2011 09:49 AM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
Sorry, what did you see LoloMo?

Edi June 29th, 2011 10:47 AM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
There is a new version (v3.27a) of the modding manual available from the patch download page. The newer version contains some more detailed explanation of the new mechanics of the #weapon and #armor commands.

It was not worth redoing the entire patch just for the document change, so if you want the most up to date modding manual, get the copy from the patch page.

LDiCesare June 29th, 2011 02:36 PM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 779545)
It was not worth redoing the entire patch just for the document change, so if you want the most up to date modding manual, get the copy from the patch page.

Well, the document change maybe not, but frankly I'm holding to start a game until mods are changed, so reverting the modding commands change would actually have been a better idea. The current patch simply breaks all mods that add or change a weapon to any unit, which means all versions of CBM, which means a lot of games.

Edi June 29th, 2011 04:12 PM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
The current patch breaks all mods because the old mechanic for the #weapon and #armor commands was broken in relation to modifying old monsters (as opposed to creating new ones) and did not work correctly.

That was Johan's assessment of the situation when it was asked in light of this thread, so you may have a very hard time trying to convince him of the need to revert it.

You could actually see some of the problems in action if you tried certain kinds of things. llamabeast has actually produced a script that can fix mods by adding the #clearweapons and #cleararmor commands to a mod in the appropriate places and the CBM mods are getting an overhaul to address the issue pretty soon.

I'm afraid the current sitaution is here to stay.

LDiCesare June 30th, 2011 02:13 AM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
It's all right with llamabeast making an awesome job of fixing the mods, but this patch really adds little, and breaking everything that worked in order to allow for some new stuff without warning is still annoying. Then again, Illwinter don't have to patch the game so I know I'm behaving like a spoiled brat for complaining.
I mean, I have some mods that I used to change some units. It is broken by this patch. I'd have to patch it to use it. I haven't shared it because it's of really no value to anyone but me and I fiddled with it every other week. Had I been currently using it, I'd have had very weird and unexpected results without warning.
Anyway, thanks Illwinter for patching the game, but if you break all mods please provide a migration script or at least issue a warning beforehand.

Makinus June 30th, 2011 07:15 AM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
I just updated DOM3 with the latest patch and now all menu options got changed to a mishmash of letters (CCCCCCc or DDDDDDd). I remember this happening on a patch a long time ago and the fix was a simple one... i simply cannot find it (or remember it)... can anyone help me?

Thanks

Edi June 30th, 2011 09:01 AM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
You could try uninstalling and reinstalling the game. Just back up your saves, mods and maps first.

Gandalf Parker June 30th, 2011 10:16 AM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
What screen size are you running at?
There was an update to the font files with this patch. We might have missed testing it with a particular screen setting

Do you run full screen? Do you use alt-return to step out then get back in?

Makinus June 30th, 2011 07:00 PM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
Following Gandalf comment i tried other resolutions (hard to remember the option on the menu that changes resolutions) and discovered that the problem only shows up when i set the resolution for 1680x1050 or above... resolutions below this work normally...

Too bad i could not use the max resolution on my 32" LCD monitor...

Edit: and yes, i play with fullscreen and alt-tab frequently (to do other things while the turn is being processed)....

OmikronWarrior June 30th, 2011 07:19 PM

Re: New Patch & Mods - Possible bugs.
 
Man, did I pick the wrong time to start modding, or maybe the right time as things may work out. Regardless, I was working on a mod to better balance Pretenders, so as a work in progress no MP games are effected. Yet, now all the weaponless pretenders I gave weapons to still have "Fist" as a weapon alongside the weapons I gave them.

How do I go about rectifying this? Do I need to post #clearweapons with every Pretender?


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