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triqui November 12th, 2011 08:34 PM
Re: Blood Vengence and Damage Types plus Bringing down an Early Vastness
 
I remember facing vastness as marignon in a late age game, and it was painful. High MR thugs are the best option IMHO.

BewareTheBarnacleGoose November 13th, 2011 10:10 AM
Re: Blood Vengence and Damage Types plus Bringing down an Early Vastness
 
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Originally Posted by Knai (Post 788376)
1) Enslave Mind/Charm. This and some MR boosters will be pretty expensive, but its not a Pyrrhic victory when you come out of it with a Vastness and only lose a few troops.
That is definitely what I meant by more clever!

Knai November 14th, 2011 03:23 AM
Re: Blood Vengence and Damage Types plus Bringing down an Early Vastness
 
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Originally Posted by BewareTheBarnacleGoose (Post 788455)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knai (Post 788376)
1) Enslave Mind/Charm. This and some MR boosters will be pretty expensive, but its not a Pyrrhic victory when you come out of it with a Vastness and only lose a few troops.
That is definitely what I meant by more clever!
Still, this requires that one has a pretty impressive magical engine going, and that one has been researching the right paths. Charm is Thaum 7, so its very situational. On the other hand, within the situation is is quite solid, particularly as anyone with access to Charm has access to Gift of Reason.

triqui November 16th, 2011 06:53 AM
Re: Blood Vengence and Damage Types plus Bringing down an Early Vastness
 
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Originally Posted by BewareTheBarnacleGoose (Post 788455)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knai (Post 788376)
1) Enslave Mind/Charm. This and some MR boosters will be pretty expensive, but its not a Pyrrhic victory when you come out of it with a Vastness and only lose a few troops.
That is definitely what I meant by more clever!
As Knai himself stated later, that's in no way an answer to an early Vastness. It's, however, a excellent answer to a *late* Vastness. But in the scenary presented by the OP, it's not useful. There's no way any nation could have Thau 7 researched in the first year of game, which is Shaetner's problem.

Knai November 16th, 2011 09:48 AM
Re: Blood Vengence and Damage Types plus Bringing down an Early Vastness
 
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Originally Posted by triqui (Post 788677)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BewareTheBarnacleGoose (Post 788455)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knai (Post 788376)
1) Enslave Mind/Charm. This and some MR boosters will be pretty expensive, but its not a Pyrrhic victory when you come out of it with a Vastness and only lose a few troops.
That is definitely what I meant by more clever!
As Knai himself stated later, that's in no way an answer to an early Vastness. It's, however, a excellent answer to a *late* Vastness. But in the scenary presented by the OP, it's not useful. There's no way any nation could have Thau 7 researched in the first year of game, which is Shaetner's problem.
Yeah. I don't remember exactly where Enslave Mind is, but I was thinking it was earlier.


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