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FASTBOAT TOUGH September 29th, 2013 04:10 PM

Re: Soviet/Russian BMP-2 discrepancies
 
The Russian BMP-2M has the AGS-30 which I understand is a newer version of the AGS-17. The AGS-30 has a higher rate of fire with increased range. I don't know if the AGS-30 mounted version has the same stats as the infantry tripod one.

Regards,
Pat

DRG September 29th, 2013 08:47 PM

Re: Soviet/Russian BMP-2 discrepancies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 822165)
The Russian BMP-2M has the AGS-30 which I understand is a newer version of the AGS-17. The AGS-30 has a higher rate of fire with increased range. I don't know if the AGS-30 mounted version has the same stats as the infantry tripod one.

Regards,
Pat



According to

http://world.guns.ru/grenade/rus/ags-17-e.html
and
http://world.guns.ru/grenade/rus/ags-30-e.html

the range for both is the same ( wiki says differently but I tell people DON'T QUOTE WIKI... but we go down that road every week...)

AGS-17

Caliber: 30x29B
Type: blowback operated, belt fed automatic grenade launcher
Overall length: 840 mm
Weight: 18 kg gun plus 12 kg tripod 6T8
Effective range: up to 800 m point targets; 1700 m maximum range
Rate of fire: 350-400 rounds per minute

AGS-30

Caliber: 30x29B
Type: blowback operated, belt fed automatic grenade launcher
Overall length: 1100 mm
Weight: 16 kg gun complete with tripod
Effective range: up to 800 m point targets; 1700 m maximum range
Rate of fire: 400 rounds per minute

No significant different in game terms

according to

http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...res_video.html

different ammo has different ranges 2 are 1700 and 1 is 2100 ( GPD-30 ) .. NO IDEA if the AGS-17 can fire the GPD-30.. ( or even how available that round is ) so yes, it may be that we need a GPS-30 in the game. It's on the list to investigate. The AGS-30 though does have an optical sight but so does the AGS-17 for maximum range

sabresandy September 30th, 2013 07:39 PM

Re: Soviet/Russian BMP-2 discrepancies
 
Given the great reduction in weight, I'd say it's worth replacing the ground-mounted weapons by bumping up their movement from 4 to 5. Precedent would be the LW50MG unit for the US orbats: the new weapon is lighter and more mobile, so they get more movement.

Of course, the difference is minimal when it's vehicle-mounted.


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