Re: Arty penalty
 

About the only time I have trouble with overload is virtually every time I do a scenario involving the Soviets ;)

Tho it occasionally comes up on smaller scenarios where there is extensive air support.

As an example if you did something similar to the "We Were Soldiers" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Were_Soldiers and tried to cover the while battle you'd run into problems with air support because unlike artillery/mortars they're a one use item so you'd need to have a ton and they count as "artillery".

Re: Arty penalty
 

According to the GG for Version 7.0 released April 2013, " Air units or ADA do not count as artillery points, only mortars, howitzers etc. that can fire indirectly. Ammo resupply units do count as artillery points, as they are a human use only unit against the AI." Or has another patch superseded that one?

Re: Arty penalty
 

Interesting. I didn't know this. Not that it ever would affect me as I tend to go relatively light on number of artillery units. Still, thanks for the info.

Re: Arty penalty
 

This is how the game is currently. As i said, I will be taking Suhir's suggestion that overload should not apply in scenario games.

Re: Arty penalty
 

If you are planning a massed programmed fire in a scenario - use the general support level of arty, they cost about 50% of regular arty and are precisely for that use case, as the extra delay does not factor in for programmed fires.

Re: Arty penalty
 

Not in front of my computer but pretty sure air does not count with regard to artillery overload.

Re: Arty penalty
 

It does not count to overload

Re: Arty penalty
 

I stand corrected !