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scorpio_rocks August 23rd, 2020 02:15 AM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
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Originally Posted by Artaud (Post 848301)
Maybe I need to get to work creating some scenarios myself!


I would LOVE to see Ogaden War scenarios!

I did, quite recently, play through a generated campaign with Cuba (Somalia and Mujahideen as opponents),

retiredgysgt August 23rd, 2020 06:04 PM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
Went all the way to 2013 on the OOB list can not find an alternate red OOB.

troopie August 23rd, 2020 06:09 PM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredgysgt (Post 848314)
Went all the way to 2013 on the OOB list can not find an alternate red OOB.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...0&d=1472686962

Here's one from 2016. I'll have to update when I have the time.

troopie

retiredgysgt August 23rd, 2020 07:16 PM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopie (Post 848315)
Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredgysgt (Post 848314)
Went all the way to 2013 on the OOB list can not find an alternate red OOB.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...0&d=1472686962

Here's one from 2016. I'll have to update when I have the time.

troopie

If all it is is red it should be ok for South African in the 70's and 80's I don't general use red much

Artaud August 28th, 2020 08:50 PM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredgysgt (Post 848317)
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopie (Post 848315)
Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredgysgt (Post 848314)
Went all the way to 2013 on the OOB list can not find an alternate red OOB.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...0&d=1472686962

Here's one from 2016. I'll have to update when I have the time.

troopie

If all it is is red it should be ok for South African in the 70's and 80's I don't general use red much

Do you mean playing as South Africa, or playing as guerillas operating against South Africa? I have no desire to play as South Africa or Rhodesia in the 1970s.

I have played around with creating a battle between African forces by using the "captured" mechanism. A big thank you to the person who suggested this. It makes this great game even more flexible.

troopie August 29th, 2020 12:07 AM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
When doing Rhodesia battles in the 1970s increase the points by causing casualties and decrease the victory hex points. Missions were (for the guerrillas, destroying bridges, mining roads and killing farmers and government troops) and (for the government troops, clearing roads, protecting farmers, saving bridges and killing guerrillas.)

troopie

Artaud September 1st, 2020 09:27 PM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_rocks (Post 848304)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artaud (Post 848301)
Maybe I need to get to work creating some scenarios myself!


I would LOVE to see Ogaden War scenarios!

I did, quite recently, play through a generated campaign with Cuba (Somalia and Mujahideen as opponents),

There are a couple of good books about the Somalia-Ethiopia conflict(s), by either Ethiopian or Somali scholars, I forget which. One of them provides rather good information on Cuban involvement. I will have to dig around and see if I can recall the names of those books.

When researching African conflicts I tend to rely on sources produced by African scholars. With a very few exceptions.

retiredgysgt September 1st, 2020 09:38 PM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artaud (Post 848360)
Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredgysgt (Post 848317)
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopie (Post 848315)

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...0&d=1472686962

Here's one from 2016. I'll have to update when I have the time.

troopie

If all it is is red it should be ok for South African in the 70's and 80's I don't general use red much

Do you mean playing as South Africa, or playing as guerillas operating against South Africa? I have no desire to play as South Africa or Rhodesia in the 1970s.

I have played around with creating a battle between African forces by using the "captured" mechanism. A big thank you to the person who suggested this. It makes this great game even more flexible.

Yes I want to play Rhodesia or South Africa in the 70's. How is that any different from playing Germany or Japan in WW2? Rhodesia is an interesting side to play, their forces are generally weak and poorly equipped. They make up for that with good moral and experience.

Imp September 2nd, 2020 06:43 AM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
Okay now I am completely confused both South Africa & Rhodesia have OOB's Rhodesia ends in 1980 as it ceased to exist but that covers your time frame. So why are you looking at Red when you have the correct OOB's?

If your saying South Africa buys to much armour either set them to human purchase & buy what you want for the AI.
or
Try modifying South African OOB removing most armour formations & see if that works. Need to test never tried.
The game should have a backup OOB to restore the original but make a copy before modifying if you like.

retiredgysgt September 2nd, 2020 12:10 PM

Re: Creating African scenarios
 
No If I choose Rhodesia all the options to fight have to many tanks. The Rhodesian forces don't really have good anti tank equipment. As South Africa I have tanks so that's ok.

I prefer to play either Rhodesia or South Africa. Though with the new orbit for the game I may choose to fight them from Red )


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