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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
GrowlTigga, what about a list of Englands Queens and female Prime Ministeres? Oh, and then there was Goulda Mier.<hr></blockquote>

boring Gryph, Anne, Mary, Elizabeth and then Margaret Thatcher - not the best

Dogscoff - Kylie is a warrior woman to me, at least I would really like her to beat up on me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Well, this is a tricky list. Lots of the names you might use could also be included in other lists. The Amazons could go quite logically in the Greek list, for example. You should also complete some of those names. "Ripley" could be lots of people. It should be "Ellen Ripley" so people don't have to wonder if it's Ripley's Believe It Or Not! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . That said, I can fill in some of the requested ideas.

The Queen of the Amazons was Hippolyta, and that would be an excellent name for a capital ship. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

The Greeks do seem to provide some of the best warrior women. (Clytemnestra was one nasty b****! Even if she was a schemer rather than an open fighter.) Don't forget Medea. She was more of a sorceress than a warrior but also quite a tough customer. And then of course there's Circe, who held Odysseus captive for a decade or more.

The 'love interest' in the first Conan movie as Valeria, but there was also Zula (played by Grace Jones) in the second movie. And don't forget that other sword and sorcery movie 'Red Sonja' which starred Brigit Nielsen but was produced by (and co-starred) Arnold in a 'veiled' Conan role. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Red Sonja would also be a cool name for a capital ship.

There are some good SciFi and Fantasy heroines you could use, too. Like Honor Harrington! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Some of the names are themselves borrowings from earlier mythology, though, like C. J. Cherryh's Morgaine. And Wr8th, how can you suggest suggest Arwen and Galadriel, who never picked up a sword or entered personal combat as far as we can tell from Tolkien's works, but not include Luthien, who took on the Dark Lord himself (Morgoth, that is, not to mention his lackey Sauron)??? Luthien is about the closest thing to the Greek sorceress type in modern literature. She jumps right into the fray like any of the men. And wins.

There are a few relatively modern female 'adventurers', too. Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane, for example.

Edit: A quick search on Google has produced a very interetsng site:

http://www.lothene.demon.co.uk/others/women.html

You should be able to collect a lot of names of warrior women from this page.

[ 28 March 2002: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]</p>

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I'm kinda surprised that no one mentioned Nightingale.

Being the Chief Medic in a hellish battlefield like the crimean war is no easy job.

and gotta have a name for a Medical Ship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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'The Martha Stewart'

That's one tough *bleep*

Lara Croft too. It'll be a 'Lara Croft craft'.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
And Wr8th, how can you suggest suggest Arwen and Galadriel, who never picked up a sword or entered personal combat as far as we can tell from Tolkien's works, but not include Luthien, who took on the Dark Lord himself (Morgoth, that is, not to mention his lackey Sauron)??? Luthien is about the closest thing to the Greek sorceress type in modern literature. She jumps right into the fray like any of the men. And wins.
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I suspect the answer here is pretty simple: How many people, even Tolkien fans, have actually taken the time to read the Silmarillion? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Those who have read only the trilogy know of Luthien only from songs. I would also contend that Galadriel, while not your standard warrior-type, has, along with Gandalf, been fighting the psychological and magical war for quite a few centuries.

A few from my favorite author, who, for as much as people called him anti-female, sure liked strong female characters:

Hilda Burroughs
Helen Stone
Star (from Glory Road)
Maureen Johnson Long

Of course... they don't make for great ship names http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I've seen a couple of Trek names, but I haven't yet seen Beverly Crusher or Kathryn Janeway, both of whom have actually defeated entire Borg ships. (Or, in case two, an entire Borg hyperspace node).

Mother Abigail (from The Stand.)

An obscure one: Carmen "Red" Zuigiber. Bonus points, as usual, to the first who can place the reference.

Klotho, Lachesis, Atropos. (The Fates). Not exactly warriors but, hey, you going to argue with women who can cut your life short? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I see a mention of Diana below; her Greek name was Artemis.

And now, a few completely off-the-wall ones:

Dr. Josephine Baker (fought against infant mortality in NYC at the turn of the century. Saved an estimated 500k children's lives.)

Carrie Nation (fought for Prohibition. I don't agree with her, but hey, she carried an ax. I'm not messing with her http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Rosa Parks
Indira Gandhi
(both of whom fall under "peaceful warfare")

Admiral Grace Hopper (OK, not a warrior, but she's cool anyway.)

OK... I think that's enough for now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

LL

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Shannon Foraker, from the Honor Harrington series.

"Oops." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Tough women 'eh?

How about Janet Reno? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Molly Pitcher: carried water to the artillery guys during a battle of the US-GrtBrtn war (c. 1776), then took over swabbing out the cannons (using her petticoats, if you believe the story) when the men fell exhausted or dead.

Jael: pretended to befriend the fleeing enemy commander Sisera; once he was asleep she put a tent peg through his temples and into the ground. Ouch! (See Judges 4.)

How about Rosie the Riveter's construction yard base? Or the Mata Hari planet filled with spy centers.

And I can't believe nobody mentioned Diana Prince, alias Wonderwoman. We'd all be Nazis by now if it weren't for her! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I thought this was supposed to be for tough as in mentality of the women...

Not for the Skin of the women.

Heck if we are talking about Skin or Body mass, why don't we put in Rosie o'Donnell?

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Edit: The starship Rosie O'Donnell, To boldly go where no alternative lifestyle has gone before, and to advocate Intergalactic Adoption rights...

[ 28 March 2002: Message edited by: TerranC ]</p>

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Dogscoff, I assume you'll get all of Wagner's valkyrie names from Die Walkure from that viking site?

Practically all Nordic and Germanic female names have original meanings like "battle maiden", "shield maiden", "warrior maiden", etc.

For Greek names, include Medusa and her sisters' names!

I suppose there are names of the agents in The Avengers, all of whom routinely trounced and killed even without recourse to weapons: Catherine Gale, Emma Peel, Tara King.

[ 29 March 2002: Message edited by: PvK ]</p>