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Q January 8th, 2003 09:16 PM

Re: New Weapon Concepts
 
Vampire beam: it reduces the supply of the targeted ship and adds this supply to the attacking ship. However this is useful only in the early game until quantum reactors are used.

Freeze torpedo: immobilizes target for the time of that combat (without destroying the engines).

Genesis device (as mentioned in the corresponding topic): first destroys everything in a system but then creates a random standard system.

Pablo January 8th, 2003 09:33 PM

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What about illusion component? Makes the fleet twice or several times (depending upon level) as big for the enemy to see. Scary! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Ships may pop as baloons of course but anyway... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Ruatha January 8th, 2003 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Q:
Vampire beam: it reduces the supply of the targeted ship and adds this supply to the attacking ship. However this is useful only in the early game until quantum reactors are used.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What if they also make damage to supply components (Reserve supply pods, solar panels and quantum reactors), such as engine damagaing weapons and shield damaging weapons etc.

Ruatha January 8th, 2003 09:56 PM

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Chameleon device (Existed in a add-on for VGA planets).
Makes your ship appear as anothjer ship, of another race.
So you can make your transports seem to be a battleship from another neighbour. Or make your battleship look like a colonizer! Nasty surprise when they attack it with an escort!

Ruatha January 8th, 2003 10:00 PM

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I'd like to see more "random events" Optional ofcourse. Such as space creatures, dimensional rifts (Duplicating your ship, destyroying them, converting the crew to another race(Giving it to another player), transforming the ship to another ship, etc), Aliens that infects colonizers (Was in another add-on in VGA planets, that was really scary:
When you colonized a planet with aliens on it infected the population and took over the ship, sending it to other planets where it infected the population. In one game all players had to band together and end all wars just to kill off all aliens!!)

Slick January 8th, 2003 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slick:
From SFB really, but maybe make some weapons that have a "myopic zone" where the damage is 0 at close ranges (i.e 0 0 0 50 40 30 20 10 0 ...) Makes a ship good for ranged attacks but vulnerable to a point blank attack.

Slick.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I like that one, maybe 0 0 0 10 20 30 40 30 20 10 0 0 though?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The model is from a weapon in Star Fleet Battles called a Plasmatic Pulsar Device. It had very complicated rules, but the part that can be implemented in SE4 is the myopic zone. Its damage decreased somewhat linearly outside range 3.

Slick.

Timstone January 8th, 2003 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slick:
From SFB really, but maybe make some weapons that have a "myopic zone" where the damage is 0 at close ranges (i.e 0 0 0 50 40 30 20 10 0 ...) Makes a ship good for ranged attacks but vulnerable to a point blank attack.

Slick.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I like that one, maybe 0 0 0 10 20 30 40 30 20 10 0 0 though?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Some time ago (when I first entered this board), I suggested a weapon like this. It was overruled because no weapon in the series would resemble the wepons in The Mod (B5Mod).

Timstone January 8th, 2003 10:58 PM

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Ruatha: VGA Planets? What's that?

TerranC January 8th, 2003 11:19 PM

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VGA Planets is one of the grandfathers of 4X gaming. It looks like MOO IMHO.

capnq January 8th, 2003 11:26 PM

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Quote:

From SFB really, but maybe make some weapons that have a "myopic zone" where the damage is 0 at close ranges (i.e 0 0 0 50 40 30 20 10 0 ...)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It would have to be

1 1 1 50 40 30 20 10 0 ...

SE IV interprets the first 0 in the series as "out of range".


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