Re: Maintenace Value
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I think his wife is.

I think Slick was submiting an entry to the "hillareous things our women say" thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Maintenace Value
 

[quote]Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:

Quote:

So you think you're getting your butt kicked because everyone else chose to reduce their maintenance costs by 10% (i.e., instead of paying 25% maintenance, only paying 15% maintenance)? Or did you modify the maintenance in the wrong direction (i.e., you're now paying 35% maintenance instead of 25%)?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well the butt kicking is a bit debatable (and could be due to other factors :-) )but my point was that I never realized the effect of changing your racial maintenance value. I think it is clearly a VERY missleading. IE. I had always assumed that choosing 110% Maintenance trait would mean you are 10% better than normal when in fact it is much much higher. I think all the other traits work that way don't they???

As others have not pointed out the math is like so:
100% value = 25% maintenance
110% value = 15% maintenance

I gather there may be something in the manual somewhere that says this is the way it is but certainly there is nothing to suggest this on the race setup screeen</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In addition to maintenance, happines,reproduction and tolerance are not what one would think of.

[ January 15, 2003, 12:04: Message edited by: oleg ]

Re: Maintenace Value
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">half of one = .5
six dozen of another = 72

You are telling me that .5 and 72 are the same? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I think the correct cliche is "...half dozen of one, six of another, it makes no difference..."

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But anyways, the difference between lowering maintenance paid and base maintenance cost is enormous! Assume the maintenance is 1000.

Lower maintenance paid by 10%, you get 900.

Lower base maintenance paid by 10%, you get:
1000 / 0.25 = 4000 (cost of ship)
4000 * 0.15 = 600

That subtle difference of wording makes quite a big difference! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess the humor was totally lost on you. Ok. Let me explain. The thread was talking about how the maintenance reduction worked. Some people thought it was a flat reduction in total maintanence, but it is really a lowering of the base rate which makes it significantly more effective.

Yes, I understand that "half of 1 and six dozen of another" are different.

Yes, I understand the correct cliche.

Yes, that was a direct quote from my wife and I thought it was funny at the time since she was serious.

Yes, I thought it was funny and applicable to this thread because the two understandings are NOT the same and it DOES make a difference. Maybe not everyone caught the joke.

Slick.

[ January 15, 2003, 15:44: Message edited by: Slick ]

Re: Maintenace Value
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I think his wife is.

I think Slick was submiting an entry to the "hillareous things our women say" thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's right and I got lots more. Here is another one: in reference to a luncheon that she was unhappy about what they were serving "They were only serving these tiny ham sandwiches. It just wasn't Kosher."

I wrote down some of the better ones, but I don't have the notebook with me right now.

Slick.

Re: Maintenace Value
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, not everyone. Just everyone except Fyron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Maintenace Value
 

Must not have been that good of a joke then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif