Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

I haven't played any of the MOO games, so I can't compare SE4 to them, but compared the games I have played, SE4 beat the hell out of them in everything but diplomacy.

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

You can get MOO2 for rather cheap nowadays. I only payed about $10 for it a few years back. I suggest you try it out. You won't regret it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

MOO series = good single player
SE4 = good multiplayer

I probably won't play MOO3 multiplayer, and, lord help me, I won't play SE4 single player.

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It is good to see that I am not alone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Well... except that there is no "lord help me" part for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 27, 2003, 18:16: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Unfortunately, the mis-adventures of the MOO series might hurt all 4X games rather than help its rivals. Most people are hypnotized by eye-candy 'real time' 3D games these days, you know. Hearing that MOO 3 was 'a flop' might convince them that 4X games aren't any good and they should stick with the click-fest eye-candy type games. Then Galactic Civilization and other pending 4X games will get much less chance to prove themselves.

I'm sure MM will be reading reviews and listening to opinons about MOO 3 to learn what they did wrong, though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ February 27, 2003, 18:26: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

One thing that makes a big difference, Moo2, Moo3, Alpha Centauri, Gal Civ etc are all 'retail' products as in 'on the shelves of many stores out there.' SE4 as far as I know has only been available through Online purchase. That makes a whole lot of difference in how visible a product is in the public eye. I would be willing to bet that if SE4:Gold hit retail shelves sales would dramatically increase. Heck if it was able to top $500,000 sales just through the net, I'd say it still has lots of potential.

..just another of my humble opinions..

Cheers!

P.S. I really hope that SE:5 hits not only the Online stores, but also makes it's way into the retail outlets. There's a whole new audience out there, and that means a lot of sales potential!

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

Yes, and that would make lots of money for the retail stores, and for the retail distributers. But not much for MM at all. This is why SE4 was not taken to retail. The developers pretty much get the shaft when their games' are sold retail.

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

Yeah, I didn't even know of the Space Empire series of games until I read a review in PC Gamer. I then went to Electronic Boutique, where I seem to get the majority of my games, and they had never even heard of it. I then checked out the website, downloaded the demo, played it and became so damn frustrated with not knowing what the heck I was doing that I ordered the game, figuring the manual would explain all!! Ha, ha, little did I know....

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ouch! Bad assumption! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?
 

lol, ya but now you luv se4 eh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

i just wish aaron fixed general ai and combat resolution/strategy/initiative issues - imho the 2 weakest parts of se4gold