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Baron Munchausen March 18th, 2003 07:48 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
Yes, the QR is too powerful. Many people have been requesting that MM change it to produce only a certain amount of supplies per turn. There is a difference between infinite supplies at a fixed rate of production and infinite supplies at an infinite rate of production. It wouldn't be that big a change, either. He'd only have to change a few lines of code somewhere. We just have to get enough people to ask for it to convince him.

[ March 18, 2003, 17:49: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

oleg March 18th, 2003 08:50 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
How about if your ships get hit by Ionic Dispersers? If all that the ship has is engines (no supply pods or QR), it will be out of supplies, and unable to fire (assuming the ID gets past the shields). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This is why QR on every ship, or a Supply Storage on every ship, is a good idea.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Never tested it, but does QR replenish supplies of a ship DURING combat ?

Desdinova March 18th, 2003 09:23 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
i hope they wouldnt remove the quantum engine ability all together, just add a new ability to generate x-amount of supplies per turn. that way you could have different levels of ability.
what does the supply generation ability do? i know what the solar supply generation does, but could supply generation be the ability you are asking for?

Graeme Dice March 18th, 2003 09:28 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spoon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Atrocities:
QR's give too much. I say ban them!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I say increase their size to 500kt and raise their cost to 50k.

Or ban them. Or something.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or accept that they have been part of the game since at least SE3 where they were even more effective than they are now.

oleg March 18th, 2003 09:34 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
Proportions treat QR rather gently, you may check how PvK moded it.

Gryphin March 18th, 2003 10:49 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
You can always mod a special ships plating of solar panals or a large efficient solar sail.

Fyron March 18th, 2003 11:22 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
Solar panels are not a good solution, because their generation is dependant on the stars in the system.

Gryphin March 19th, 2003 12:26 AM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
My understanding is that the QR is "too" good.
The Solar Sails have limitations. The amount of juice they generate is moddable.
What am I missing here?

Fyron March 19th, 2003 12:32 AM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
Solar collector generation is based off of stars in the system. This is not what QR are supposed to do. They should not be dependant on the number of stars for supply generation. This is why it is an imperfect solution. What we need is an ability that generates X supplies per turn, period. No dependance on stars or anything like that.

[ March 18, 2003, 22:33: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

DirectorTsaarx March 19th, 2003 09:29 PM

Re: Quantum Reactors
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slick:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slick:
In combat however all ships use supplies and it is possible for non-QR ships to run out of supplies in combat, even if they are in a fleet.

Slick.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What kind of supply sucking high energy cannons do you use to run out of supplies? The engine supplies should be completely filled at the beginning of the combat in case of a QR in a fleet. The engines should provide enough supplies even for components like planet crunchers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Take a look at the supply usage of Capital Ship Missiles.

Slick.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or Wave-Motion Guns (they use even more supplies than CSM's...)


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