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With RFID technology, you only have to get close to the "scanner," which both powers and interrogates the ID chip using radio frequency (RF) waves. This is seeing widespread use for things like inventory control, tracking packages, and road tolls. People in Spain are already having RFID chips implanted under their skin, so they can -- are you ready for this? -- skip the long lines at popular nightclubs. Preventing identity theft is a much more powerful rationale. Imagine the extent of people's voluntary cooperation if it became difficult to transact any business without it.

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Regardless of wether you beleive the bible or not, anything that gives the government that degree of control is wrong.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Now i certainly don't believe the whole basis of this (the bible) but if this was ever done in anyway I think it's time to say bon voyage from civillisation and become a nomad in the country. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

As for those chips... I would never agree with that. If in the end it comes to that then the world better stop spinning and let me off. If as you said if it got to the stage where business was impossible then i guess thats the point we start becoming property instead of people and i certainly wouldn't agree with that.

[ June 24, 2004, 19:22: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

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What does the Bible have to do with any of this anyways?

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check dmm's post several Posts down rags http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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And one of the other prophesy's of the end of the world goes something like 'having the beast's mark on their hand or forehead.'

I can't remember exactly, but it was something like that.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, Pretty Much Narf, I've read the bible once or twice. I think most of this end of the world prophecy stuff is dealt with in New Testament: Revelations... Although don't quote me on that as it's been years http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I saw that but I still fail to see how that applies to Bill Gates and the Antichrist..Oh well, I guess I don't need to know anyways. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is along those lines but it is not to be taken literally as if everyone would have markings on their foreheads.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're joking, right? AntiCHRIST?
Of course, one can certainly discuss the idea of an absolute world ruler without referencing the antichrist, or misuse the word "antichrist" to mean only an evil dictator. Properly used, "antichrist" adds the idea that this ruler also forces everyone to worship him and deny Christ. This is a concept from the Bible, especially the prophetic and apocalyptic parts.

Maybe for BG, we should use the Islamic term "the Great Satan," which seems to have a broader definition. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Lol the topics been slightly taken off topic http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif It's the natural cycle of OT topics. Born - Discussed - Hijacked - Dies - Hijacked months later with a related argument http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I saw that too but any of the Bibles prophecies do not apply to BG anyways so I guess that is why I was wondering. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Back to your regularly scheduled topic now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is along those lines but it is not to be taken literally as if everyone would have markings on their foreheads. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm not so sure...After banging my head off the monitor in frustration from the windows OS i have had a mark on my forehead... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Edit: On a more spiritual note i know a few christians who believe that the European Union is the beginning of an empire prophesied in the bible. A lot of the prophercies can be interpreted these days relating to events happening, but my personal view is that at any time a prophecy can be interpreted. It's just the world being in a bad state at the moment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ June 24, 2004, 19:55: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Nice.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I saw that but I still fail to see how that applies to Bill Gates and the Antichrist..Oh well, I guess I don't need to know anyways. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh, OK, I see. Hope my Last post wasn't too sarcastic. You have to read the article cited at the beginning of this topic by whoever started this thing. Which wasn't me. I hopped on board just to point out that the cited article didn't say Bill is the antichrist, but that a software monopoly with that kind of centralized control is something that the antichrist would find useful.

The rest of my post was just to point out that, whether you believe the Bible writers were inspired by God or not, they do seem to have been "spot on" (as the Brits would say) in quite a few of their warnings. So maybe we should think about their predictions for what a person or government or business would do with that kind of centralized power. The writers were certainly well-acquainted with absolute dictators and religious intolerance disguised as inclusiveness.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is along those lines but it is not to be taken literally as if everyone would have markings on their foreheads. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Correction: It is not specifically stated as either literal or figurative.

And since I have a vague recollection of part of that one saying that people could not do business without it...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It seems the Foundations of Politics haven't changed much over time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The passage can be found at Rev. 13: 16-18

The Bible tells us that efforts would be put forth to place the mark of this composite, imperfect, deficient political ruling organization upon the foreheads and on the hands of men, who will not “be able to buy or sell” unless they are identified in mental support and in activity as slaves and worshipers of the wild beast. So the political rulers put on pressure to the extent that they would make existence almost impossible for those who refuse to worship them or the political State. It is most evident in the rising tide of nationalism. In the days of Rome people were required to burn incense to the emperor.

That is the Last I am saying here since this is not the place nor the thread for a Biblical discussion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif