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Talking about Enterprise, the Last weeks episode with the haunted Vulcan ship was especially good. I truly enjoyed that episode as it was one of the first ORIGINAL episodes for Enterprise. Very enjoyable with an occational scare. They should have held that episode off until Halloween.
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Enterprise is messed up. let's start with the shows romu-i mean 'vulcan's'.
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I just watched the ScFi channels premier for Battlestar, and I have to say man what a bunch of self absorbed ego manacks. "I am playing starbuck, and I am a girl, deal with it."
I will watch the mini series and from what little I have seen, I am sure it will be good. Ron Moore is not a dummy and can write, so that is a plus. The casting is ok, but not the greatest. But Starbuck and Boomer as women??? Well ok, things change and this is a new series so why the hell not. All in all, I am just very glad to see the series being revived. Even though it is not what I would have done, it still is BSG. Ron Moore has some funny ideas for things, he didn't really have a clue about who the Cylons were and such, but he did make a good point about the fact that the orginal series never really giving much info about them. The Cylons were created by a race of raptillian creatures who were destroyed by their own machines. That was made very clear in the original series, but Ron Moore thought the cylons were raptillians inside of the suites, kinda like clones in stormtrooper uniformes in Star Wars. I am glad that BSG is finally getting some credit, but it angers me to think that Ron Moore was so desprate to make his own mark in ScFi that he chose to claim BSG as his own creation, not realizing the huge fan base the show had accumulated over the years. You would think that someone coming from a Star Trek environment would have done his home work on the fan base before announcing his Battlestar Galactica project. Well he is human I guess, or is he???? Either way you cut it, pro or con, it is just nice to see BSG being revived. I hope when the SciFi Channel remake Star Wars, they don't change Chewbacca into a girl and have the Humanoid Human looking Robot C3P-0 fall for her. Or worse, make Han Solo a women, and her fall Lea. eeeewww .... hummmm http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif wait, that might be interesting....... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif [ November 29, 2003, 04:45: Message edited by: Atrocities ] |
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I also can't wait for the new BSG, even though it might take awhile to get used to a female Starbuck. I'm old enough to remember this show when it was prime-time viewing on ABC. I also remember the origin of the Cylons, although I can't remember if it was from the series or from a book. I hope this show is good enough to make into a series. However, having said that, I still wish that Richard Hatch (the original Apollo) would get his BSG project on tv also. Might be interesting to see how both Versions compare.
As far as a televised Star Wars, I can only imagine that happening when George Lucas is in the grave, and whoever is in charge of Lucasfilms is going for the bucks instead of a quality product. I just can't see Lucas letting anyone else have any creative control over his creation, except for when he had the 2 cartoon series back in the 80's. I don't know if he had anything to do with that except give his approval. |
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Well I have to disagree with the "self absorbed ego maniacs" as the line "I'm starbuck....deal with it" is directed at all the freaky people who B and M about starbuck being a woman like it really matters in the long run. It's a SHOW people they can change Starbuck into a six legged four eyed bug for all I care as long as the show it's self is good.
And lets face it the original female cast of BSG was nothing but a bunch of sexy whiny babies that couldn't fight their way out of a paper bad...or they could fight their way out of a paper bag but would then be crying about hurting the bag. As to what Ron Moore said about the Cylons he's right I've watched that series a few times over now and not once did it say where the Cylons came from all you would see was an "Imperius Leader" who looked kind of like a baloon headed reptile. So when I first saw it I thought they were reptile "drones" in armor until I first saw them disasemble one of the centurions in a much later episode. I also agree that it was one of the campiest peices of junk ever produced aside from Buck Rodgers. I mean don't even get me started on how lame it was when they found "Terra" not this one but the other one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif . I am personally kind of happy that they are gonna have some kickass babes in the show for once even if they are replacing a whiney guy (boomer) and a womanizing scuzz ball who managed never to be caught ;-). And the fact is woman are now fighter pilots and soon if the law is passed they will also be combat infantry so they need to be represented in a series that takes place in a society that is centuries more advanced then us. I was raised around girls and women that were the kickass take no crap kind of people that I just love and watching the original cry babies of BSG made me shift between laughing my butt off and getting really pissed off at times and wanting to slap these woman back into sanity. Besides ain't nothing sexier then a babe with firepower as I always say ;-). As for the writing involved in the new BSG I do beleive it will be very good because of the parts of the story I've seen and heard. I just can't wait to get to check out the new ships and stuff. And to get to see the battle between the Colonial Fleet and the Cylons. P.S. The Richard Hatch Version of BSG was supposed to come out in 2000 or 2002 so it must have been scrapped for some reason. [ December 02, 2003, 19:09: Message edited by: Starhawk ] |
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Starhawk, I don't know how old you are or if you grew up watching American tv in the 1970's like I did, but most shows were about the man being the action hero and the women being in teh supportive role. I'm not defending it, but that's just the way it was. At least BSG had formed a female squadron when the males got sick in that one episode. I'm not "B & M" about Starbuck being a female, but after living 25 years with Dirk Benedict's face in your mind, it does take some adjustment to get used to the fact that it's going to be a female. I have no problems with females being fighter jocks or soldiers, either in tv or in real life. I was in the military, and saw several gung-ho type females, and I don't think too many of them were of the butch type. And I have to strongly disagree with your statement about BSG being campy. Maybe you're thinking about Galactic 1980, which was a big pile of dog excrement if there ever was one. Maybe it wasn't to your taste, but in the late 70's, that's about all we had to watch for sci-fi, except for Buck Rogers and Six Million Dollar Man. Now BR definitely got campy toward the end. But I can't see how you could ever call BSG campy. Maybe by today's standards it is, but nothing can be campier than Lost in Space (the series, not the movie).
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I'm talking about the people who actually stood there protesting the fact that Starbuck was gonna be a woman http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif .
And it's rather campy if you get down to those episodes where they found the non earth Terra I mean those annoying androids and the like....that was really really campy. I do think I was thinking about 1980 when I refered to the whole series as Campy though...I mean that was just horrible and what the hell were they thinking!?!?!?!?! |
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I saw the "Lowdown" on BSG. Its effectively a complete rewrite.
For example: Cylon origins aside, the Cybernetic techonlogy of the Cylon machines was beyond what the 12 colonies could build and there was a couple of episodes that pointed that out, one directly: Dr Belker took a couple of them apart and could not get them working again. Baltar is now a scientist instead of politician.( he was a member of the Council 12). I could easily go on. Like it appears they removed Athena from the story. She was Apllo's sister and I think she was a qualified pilot prior to her being stationed on the command deck. Oh the Pegasus only took on two Baseships, Baltar was on the third, and being the coward he was ran before that battle occured. [ December 03, 2003, 01:18: Message edited by: ToddT ] |
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The lowdown on BSG was a marketing ploy to get people to accept the rewrite of BSG for the SciFi channel. In a nut shell they did not do their homework on the fan base and are now trying to win as many people to the cause as possible.
I loved the part where the actors all said, "ya once I found out that the Cylons were going to be human looking I signed on." WTF! What a joke statement that was. "hey if the actors think its cool that the cylons are now human, then perhaps all the people and fan out there will accept it too." How dumb do they thing we really are? Oh wait, that question is mute, I forgot where Ronald Moore came from. First, you weren't even alive when BSG came out you, and second, your British so what do you know about BSG. You probably said; "Battlestar Galactica? What in bloodly hell is a Battlestar Galactica" Then once it was explained to you, the new concept that is, you said "Oh so it is like BLADRUNNER meets STAR WARS. Sure I'll do that." I just keep telling myself its all good. Its all good. But simply put it is a cost issue and nothing more, nothing less. Its cheeper to have humans playing the part than CGI robots or Costumed humans. After all this is the same network that cancelled Farscape while it was still the most popular series it had. And we should not forget about what they did to Cursader and Legend of the Rangers. "I have a very low expectation of the SciFi channel that they will have to work very hard indeed to impress me." - Unknown Sci-Fi author. Forgive me for being direct, but I simply did not buy the whole marketing ploy from SciFi. I know a con job when I see one. I will reserve my offical opinion until after the mini-series has aired. [ December 03, 2003, 02:10: Message edited by: Atrocities ] |
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Human Cylons? What, they didn't save all the costumes from the first show? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I was in 3rd or 4th grade when BSG first showed, but I remember thinking it got very corny after a few episodes. I liked the first episode, and some elements of some later ones (or at least, the Pegasus one), but mainly I remember a lot of embarrassing parts, or entire episodes. The "old west planet" one with a Cylon in a shiny hat? They also hyper-overused the same special effects clips, and the Cylons were almost never scary, they were SO inept. Though, I've always been pretty critical, and had little taste for things like "Boxy and his daggit", Ewoks, or "Tweaky" (or anything else after the movie) on Buck Rodgers. However, gregebowman does make a good point about 70's sci fi options. Aside from watching Star Wars as many times as possible, you had to make do with what was available. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Remember "Battle Beyond the Stars"? PvK |
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Just In case I'm wrong about who you were refering to about The Lowdown" I wasn't defending it, not by any strecth. The promo had desperation written all over it as far as I'm concerned, always think that I when see that much effort in promoting something (its usually bad).
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Meh Sci-Fi does their little "Lowdowns" on everything....farscape had one, hulk had one, bsg the new one has one the old one even had a special devoted to it. Personally I reserve judging anything until I see it.
I am not a hardcore fan of anything and couldn't care less if they change characters from men to women or change a cornyass story like BSGs for a more modern one. And if you do look closely at a lot of things the new BSG will appeal to the new generation they really don't care about the old BSGers because either those folks are older and have moved on from that kind of show completely or are mature enough to realize sometimes a modernization of a story can be a good thing. The younger viewers will familiarize themselves better to the new storyline better. At least IMHO |
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Human Cylons? What, they didn't save all the costumes from the first show? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I was in 3rd or 4th grade when BSG first showed, but I remember thinking it got very corny after a few episodes. I liked the first episode, and some elements of some later ones (or at least, the Pegasus one), but mainly I remember a lot of embarrassing parts, or entire episodes. The "old west planet" one with a Cylon in a shiny hat? They also hyper-overused the same special effects clips, and the Cylons were almost never scary, they were SO inept. Though, I've always been pretty critical, and had little taste for things like "Boxy and his daggit", Ewoks, or "Tweaky" (or anything else after the movie) on Buck Rodgers. However, gregebowman does make a good point about 70's sci fi options. Aside from watching Star Wars as many times as possible, you had to make do with what was available. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Remember "Battle Beyond the Stars"? PvK </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, there were two Ewok movies, and apparently that's all they had in common with the Star Wars universe, because there was no sign or mention of the Rebels or the Empire. If memory serves me right, though, one character was dressed in a rebel flight suit. Also, there were two cartoon series in the 80's, one based on the Ewoks and one based on the two droids. As a matter of fact, I think it was called Droids, and followed the adventures of R2-D2 and C-3PO in what must have been a pre-Star Wars 4 life. The ewoks was basically a smurf-like cartoon, only the smurfs had brown fur. None of them were very good, but in a post-Return of the Jedi era, you got your Star Wars kicks where you could. Atrocities, thanks. I think I had a couple of more points to add, but had to go back to work. I saw maybe the Last 15-20 minutes of the BSG lowdown by accident. I liked it when the new Starbuck was asked backstage what she'd do if she got a lot of negative stuff thrown at her about being a female Starbuck, and she said she'd flash them. I still haven't seen the new redesigned BSG, just the Vipers. Which looked basically the same to me, but instead of shooting lasers or plasma or whatever it was, they're shooting missiles. Can't wait until Monday. |
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Yeah, I remember Battle Beyond The Stars. It was ok, but not the best movie ever made. It took me awhile to realize what it was: The Magnificient Seven in space. Heck it even had Robert Vaughn in it. |
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As a fan of the old series, I'm trying to keep an open mind, but it appears to me that the storyline has been severely compromised. I watched the Lowdown special, then I reread the book from the original movie Last weekend. The new series makes wholescale changes to the characters, the plot and the whole background universe. I will watch but most likely be disappointed. I would have to agree that by CURRENT standards, the old show is cheesy -- but that was 70's TV for you. Try watching 6 Million Dollar Man or Starsky & Hutch reruns and you'll see what I mean.
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There is an old saying something like all fiction can be reduced down to 10 (not sure the actual number here) Greek plays. Stuff is always reused, even when we don't realize it. Did you ever notice that Pixar's a Bug's Life was another Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven remake. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I read somethere that all stories come from only 5 basic stories. I don't remember if that was supposed to be from the Greeks or not. As far as the new BSG, I find it interesting that instead of taking their names literally, like Apollo or Starbuck, they're going to be their call signs. Like Tom Cruise's character in Top Gun was called Maverick. It kind of makes sense, but who knows what kind of names were being used in the BSG universe. There did seem to be some sort of Greek or Roman influence in the names, though, in the old show. |
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Right???? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">As far as I know, which I'm afraid isn't much. I'll look it up. I just mentioned it because I remember it seemed at the time rather like the Buck Rogers film (cheap/corny late-70's sci fi vaguely copying Star Wars with 1% of the quality - bad guys come to destroy good guys, and get saved by some sassy heroes, with androids, lasers, incompetent villains, and space fighter dogfights involved) except there was no TV Version of BBTS. Ok, looking it up - yes, you are correct, assuming I know which "Japan actor" and which "heavy in some mortal combat movie" you meant. That is, John Saxon, whom I mainly associate with the actually good film Enter the Dragon. Oh wait... guess I'm wrong... Saxon doesn't seem to have been in Mortal Kombat (fortunately for him). So, I don't know whom you mean. Although I only really remembered Robert Vaughn, and the theme music (heh) and sort of the dogfights. Apparently George Peppard and Julia Duffy were also in it, although I have almost no strands of memory of them in it. I'll have to re-watch it sometime when I feel like groaning. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif PvK [ December 04, 2003, 03:07: Message edited by: PvK ] |
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Oh god, I remember it now. John Boy in space.. Ya that was like a eon ago. Prior Star Wars I think.
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There is an old saying something like all fiction can be reduced down to 10 (not sure the actual number here) Greek plays. Stuff is always reused, even when we don't realize it. Did you ever notice that Pixar's a Bug's Life was another Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven remake. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I read somethere that all stories come from only 5 basic stories. I don't remember if that was supposed to be from the Greeks or not. As far as the new BSG, I find it interesting that instead of taking their names literally, like Apollo or Starbuck, they're going to be their call signs. Like Tom Cruise's character in Top Gun was called Maverick. It kind of makes sense, but who knows what kind of names were being used in the BSG universe. There did seem to be some sort of Greek or Roman influence in the names, though, in the old show. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah well people now a days would have a lot more trouble taking names like "Boomer" "Starbuck" "Appolo" and the like seriously. I know I did when I first saw BSG the original....especially BOOMER! LOL. |
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I really don't care what people say now, I still think the Cylons from the original BSG were awesome looking machines. I don't get this revisionistic re-writing of history to say that they were ugly, stupid, and silly. Who the hell is saying this? Mostly kids who grew up in the 90's and the technological advancement of CGI. Hey kiddies, this was real cool back in 1978, oddly enough the year "after" star wars came out, and it helped to pave the way for more the CGI effects that you all seem to love so very much. To me the original BSG was, and is, a nice looking show with original ideas, special effects, and costumes that, even by to days standards, are impressive for the era. They were real, and not computer generated. It really does make me angry to listen to these actors/actresses who play in the new BSG mini series when they trash talk the original series when most of them weren't even alive to have seen it.
I saw it on Sunday September 17th 1978, and to this day I can still remember thinking how cool those cylons looked. They set a standard for the series that said, hey we are not going to humanize a race of robots created by a race of reptilians. The Cylon race, the reptilians, were exterminated by the robots they created. Ronald Moore just took that tid bit and made it a human one. Humans created the cylons, not god. Well it is a dramatic statement, but it is way to much like Blade Runner and so many other Quter Limit episodes that I can't even begin to count. The uniqueness of having the Cylons as a completely unhuman created race of machines bent on the destruction of humanity was just as appealing, and in my honest to god opinion, it was a better story. The new Cylons, the robot ones, look CGI, and they are not as impressive on screen as the old chrome silver and gold ones from the original series. But hey, I guess the CGI cost for making the old chrome ones was to high. http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg |
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Atrocities, I agree with you the original cylons were cool looking, but you seriously thought the rest of the effects stand up even today? Have you watched any of the reruns on sci-fi recently or are you just going by faded adolescent memories. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Yeah they were not complaining about the LOOK of the old Cylons as much as how clumsy they were and how hard it was for the men inside them to do anything.
The costume took like four hours to put on, they couldn't sit down at all and oh Lord help them if they had to go the bathroom because it took a few hours to get the costume OFF too. The Cylons "armor" was painfully hard to get to do anything gracefull and they made the "feel" of the show as "How the hell did the Colonies lose to these tin cans?" when you see a single warrior taking out like eight of them or a single viper taking out four of their raiders it just ruined the effect of the Colonies losing to them in the first place. I mean they are just so inept the colony fleet should have decimated them even WHEN it was suprised. The new Robotic Cylons (yes they have a large number of Centurions) move like humans and look like they can kick serious ***. Not to mention that if you see the intros to the space battles the Cylons have truely OVERWHELMING numbers and rather advanced tech which makes it easier to understand the colonial fleet being defeated. But I have also heard they are redoing the WAY the battle for the colonies is fought completely so that it makes more sense. I personally am looking forward to this new show and won't judge anything until I see it. |
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Geoschmo, for the era that they came from the special effects were impressive. But by todays standards they are indeed campy. Hell even effects done in the movie ID4 are weak by todays standards.
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I can really only remember one line from Battle Beyond the Stars:
Zador? Of the Malmouri? I want his head. It's also a pretty cool observation that The Seven Samurai was inspired by the spaghetti westerns. I like how Robert Vaughn, who played the cowardly character in Magnificent Seven (George Peppard's character in BBTS, I think), played the cool warrior with no fear (Yul Brynner in Magnificent Seven) in the BBTS. EDIT NOTE: I was wrong, the spaghetti westerns followed Seven Samurai. In particular, Sergio Leone's Fistful of Dollars (adapted from Yojimbo). Kurosawa was inspired by epic westerns (films directed by John Ford in particular) when making his films, including Seven Samurai. I meant to say westerns, but I was hungry, and spaghetti slipped in there. I'm looking forward to Battlestar Galactica. I like how the predominant weapon seems to be missiles. Guess the point-defense isn't quite that good in that universe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif [ December 05, 2003, 22:33: Message edited by: Cheeze ] |
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Saw the first part of the mini-series Last night. Very interesting. There were things I thought were great, and some things that might take getting used to. I wish they had shown more of the space battles. Maybe they used their budget making the models. I like the way they did portray the fights in space. Very minimal sounds, as there would be no sound in space. As a matter of fact, the only thing I remember hearing was the Cylon EMP device going off. And speaking of cylons, if more cylons looked like that one chick, I'd join Baltar. Some were griping about the cast. I thought the female Starbuck was ok, but I did notice one thing. In order to make the cast more PC, they deleted any significant black roles. Boomer is now an Asian female, and Col. Tighe is white. The only black person I noticed was the commications officer, who I think was called D or Dee. Just an observation on my part. I look forward to seeing part two tonight.
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Indeed it was very interesting. I liked the way it seemed more real then most space shows I mean no uber phasers or loud loud noises going off all over the place.
I also enjoyed the way they showed how the Colonial fleet was defeated I mean like I said the original Cylons were so friggin incompetent that they couldn't take down one battlestar and a few straggler ships but they were able to kill a whole fleet of Battlestars and their fighters with only three stinking base stars. Sadly though I did like the Viper Mark 3 design better then the Viper Mark 2 but the Mark 2 is the main fighter of the mini-series and hopefully upcoming full blown series. I am hoping to see some of the new battlestars (in relation to the "new" galactica) in part 2 tonight but I doubt I'll get that chance. |
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Excuse me but did you see the colonial fleet being taken out? I sure did not. I would say that this first installment of the mini series was vague if anything about just about everthing.
I did like the back history that played in, ie the tour guide guy talking about the history of the BS, and the whole president story line. How she came to power. That stuff was good writing, but the utter lack of seeing the colonial fleet, or any portion there of being attacked was very dissapointing to me. I think the whole story line is an interesting one, I just wish they would have included more action and less comericals in the first episode of the mini series. I think the ratio was ten minutes to six. Six being show time, and ten being comerical. I thought that most of the acting was great, although I did not buy some of it, but overall it was rather ok. If only they had a few million more imagine what they could have done then. [ December 10, 2003, 00:24: Message edited by: Atrocities ] |
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Well the colonial fleet was easily destroyed because if you had seen it the Cylons were able to cause entire ships to simply shut off because of their modern computer technology.
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Well I'm hooked! It's not Emmy award winning, but it looks like it's going to be fun. Some of my personal hilights:
1. Starbuck- Male or female, this is the character I always wanted "him" to be. Not that goofball from the original, but a hellraiser who can fly like the angels. 2. Space Battles- while many lament not being able to watch the rest of the fleet being defeated, I think the mini-series had just the right amount of combat. And those scenes are great! 3. Actors- some (Boomer) I could leave, but Edward James Almos as Adama is a natural fit for me. He has a presence that really sells me. 4. Story- so far, so good! |
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Well now I guess I have been put in my place. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I think the lack of action in the first episode was because everything was told from the participants point of view and not from a theatrical point of view. IE we see what they see and nothing more. I am ok with that even if it does dull the story a bit. The second episode was very interesting and I have to say that it was much better than the first. Impressive Basestars and an interesting twist in the end. No comment if you have not seen it yet. Boomer is hot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif So is the communications officer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But Starbuck, well, not my type. I could really careless if Starbuck is a guy or a girl now, and I can see from a story stand point why Ronald did what he did. I think Colonel Ty is Starbucks dad BTW. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
Oh, they have GOT to make this a regular series. Please plase please? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
As much as I liked the original, this is better. Just enough of the old stuff flavored in there to keep it interesting. Shiney silver Cylon in the museum, retro vipers. Anyone else notice in the first night during the flyby at the decomisioning ceremony the music they were playing? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif A few things I didn't like, very few. Minor nitpicks. Stuff like the cylon babe being called six. What are we going for here? "She's like Seven, only one better." Come on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif A little more originality there? And I had to supress a litteral case of the shivers when the little orphan kid said his name was Boxey. He even said it with this big dramatic pause, like they knew the reaction it would get. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And he's living on the Galactica now? Acting Ensign Crush, er, Boxey?. IIEEEEEE!!!! FRAK! CAN'T LOOK! MUST POKE OUT EYES! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
I enjoyed it, different twist on some things added in, makes one wonder if Voltar will actually be a traitor in this one, hmmm, Battle scenes were a little disappointing only from the standpoint of the vipers manuvering under fire, loved the addition of missles, just wondered why Gal. didn't use them against the BaseStars during the battle in part 2. Like the idea of the clones as well, makes it a little more interesting
all in all, I would give it a high rating, definitly make it into a series but don't let it go the way of the original when they found earth, that Last yr sucked ruined the whole series just some ideas Mac |
Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
This Version of BSG is like several other movies and television shows rolled up into one.
Battlestar Galactica (TV) Screamers (Movie where mans killing machines started out simple, but evolved into humaniods, then human, and then took over.) Blade Runner (Movie - Nuff said here, the father of them all, human looking robots killing humans.) Star Trek (Voyager - Seven was a blond - Seven is a blond.) I don't believe the bridge set at all. It looks more like a room than a CIC or command deck. This is one area where the original BSG had them. Lighting effects on the Galactica herself, again the original has them here. Far more dynamic. The new one is just way to grey for my tatest even if it is a nice model. Vipers, both Mark 2 and Mark 7 are nice. Good work. The Cylon Raiders, good idea here. Make the ship a complete robot, excellent concept. Nukes and DUC's with tracers again excellent ideas. I like the silence in space as much as any one, pioneered by Cursader mind you. (Call to Arms) All in all it is a worth while show, limited mainly by its budge. |
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As far as Boxey, it wasn't as hokey as the original plot. The kid's just an orphan and he's not whining for his daggit. At least they didn't try to re-create that particular storyline. Can't wait for an on-going series. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
Geo,
I thought the same thing about Six, but then I decided that a race of robots would probably "Version" their robots just like they did in the show...I doubt they would try to come up with interesting, futureistic sounding names. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
Was it just me, or did all of those models looked familiar? I don't know if any or all of the models were CGI or not. If not, then someone went to several warehouses to salvage any and all sci-fi related models they could find. A lot of those ships looked like they were from the original show. That one ship with the plants looked like the same ship from Silent Running. I'm half-surprised they didn't use the original models for the Galactica and the base stars, especially if they were bound to a strict budget.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
It's unfortunate they had to abandon the agro ship. That would have made a nice setting for some episodes when the series get's underway.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
I tried really hard to keep an open mind about the new Version, but they jacked with too many things for my taste. That being said, there were some positives, namely the special effects (esp. the mechanical Cylons and their ships), Olmos acting, and the "realistic" tone and feel. I did find a useful site that explains some of the differences between the two Versions and the rationale behind some of the changes (posted below). Overall, I initially had high hopes, then determined that the changes weren't to my liking, decided to watch anyway and found it lacking, but better than I feared. Completely ambivalent about a possible series, although I have to say more scifi on TV is better than none.
OLD vs NEW Versions [ December 10, 2003, 18:20: Message edited by: kalthalior ] |
Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
Speaking of Olmos, it looked like he went to the Richard Pryor school of free-basing. What's with all of the pock-marks on his face? I don't remember those being there during his Miami Vice days. I almost found it distracting just watching his face. I'm curious. does anyone know anything about it?
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