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I probably shouldn't do this but I'm going to join. The map sounds too interesting to pass up, plus being a NGC game it will have to bring good times. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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you know i could take over your empire in the fall for those weeks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

either way a map will be done tonight....

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Now you say... I've already seen the map!
And my wife says that if I'm going to be away all those weeks I shouldn't think of playing when I'm home!!


But I want to!!!!

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Too bad, Ruatha - I really would have liked seeing you playing a religious race. And constantly bashing you with your own ideology that ALL RELIGIOUS RACES MUST BE EXTERMINATED http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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forget the wife http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

seiv

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Ok, I'll bite.

Now what do I need to d/l and install? and what is the name of the game at pbw that I should join?

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is caled (New) Galactic Combat 4 on PBW, so just look for it in the open games setion of PBW and join up!

As to download I dont think you actually need to download FQM, but someone who actually understands these things will tell us.

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I'd be willing to play if there's still an opening... it would be my fisrt game Online though, so I would probably need a little guidance (/me pokes Fyron in irc while asking for help) ... like where to get any mods, maps, save games.

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Hey, when do you want our empires in by?

thanks,

Alarik

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Hi.

No need to download anything.

Upload your empire as soon as possible, we won't start until you have...

After all has chosen empire I will collect all shipsets in one zipfile for your convinence and will give you instructions in how to use it, it's quite simple.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, it would pose a problem, but self inflicted pain and damage might be fun....or not.

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Tesco > Will the new map be different from the old or is it just a simple remake??

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hi i started the map Last night but was called into work... the map will be different http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But follow the same themes

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What "themes" might those be?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Page back in this thread and you will find a long description.
What I saw in the old map was alot of wormholes, obviosuly made with some purpose, but I didn't look at any logic in it, when I saw the ringworlds I contacted Tesco, can't have ringworlds around!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh yes please nothing that fancy! It is a long game, a *very* long game, and should not start with high tech lying around. Everybody should have enough time to develop and build ringworlds if he likes. Same goes for long-distance wormholes - no need to make crossovers into every corner of the galaxy possible, no need to have contact with all 20 players after a few turns. From my experience in NGC3, when empires get bigger, wormhole openers tend to appear in significant numbers - although the game will be only in a "middle" stage then.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh yes please nothing that fancy! It is a long game, a *very* long game, and should not start with high tech lying around. Everybody should have enough time to develop and build ringworlds if he likes. Same goes for long-distance wormholes - no need to make crossovers into every corner of the galaxy possible, no need to have contact with all 20 players after a few turns. From my experience in NGC3, when empires get bigger, wormhole openers tend to appear in significant numbers - although the game will be only in a "middle" stage then. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, but most of these wormhole openers seems to be located within one empire, you know anything of that Roanon?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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the ring worlds occured because I created the map in deluxe instead of standard..

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, I know, and you are forgiven as you are doing a great job, thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Just 2 more players needed, Do you feel lucky?

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

DOH! I just noticed the thread has been renammed to tell you the same thing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ February 11, 2004, 20:22: Message edited by: David E. Gervais ]

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new map is done http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Excellent!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Did you do any balancing on atmosphere/gas/ice/rock combo's?
Or did you just take what FQM generated?

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You know that balancing of planet types is important - i would also like to see more balancing of mineral, organic and radioactives to. As they can influence gameplay - set em low and encourage condintions and values upgrades in the later game or set em high to encourage big fleets, rapid building expansion and up front attacks and in youre face tactics from the start - lowering them restricts early game ship numbers and encourages a more prolonged reserach and fleet buildup.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hah! Big Kilrah is watching you! I surely see the new warp lanes recently appearing within your empire... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Just because my humble empire has managed to have a slightly higher resource income than your empire doesn't mean that I'm doing better than you - remember, I'm a newbie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Question: Regarding this rule..

5. Absolutely no e-mail diplomacy prior to in-game contact. You may mail each other on all other issues but not concerning in-game events and strategies prior to in-game contact.

How are you going to be able to enforce this? I mean, I don't plan on engaging in e-mail exchanges with the other players. (And if you have a way of monitoring my e-mails then I would apreciate you telling me how, and should I now worry about my e-mail being monitored by you?)

It just seems wierd how this rule seems to imply that you can monitor e-mails.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ahh, but I do got a mail monitor program, constantly scanning all mails sent in the world with certain keywords, including NGC4....

It's a standard rule in many games, not just mine. It means that I trust you on this by informing you that you shouldn't do it.
If it somehow comes out that it has happened there will be kickin done.

It has happened in games I've played before, usually by people forgetting about the rule but the recepient usually remembers the rule and then they both go public with the mistake. (it migh have happened much more but that I wouldn't know of).
(Mistakes usually don't get you kicked!)

[ February 12, 2004, 18:56: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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so no pre game alliance http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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A good rule, "Honor among players." I like it, and I agree with it. I just found the rule seemed to have hidden implications. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

No I'm not paranoid, really, but could you help filter any spam that goes through your e-mail monitor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I look forward to this game, it should be lots of fun. (So upload your empires people, let the games begin.)

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Nudge nudge...now that everybody has their empire files loaded up...nudge nudge...

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[ February 14, 2004, 19:34: Message edited by: alarikf ]

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Problems with map and one players shipset (Must have choosen the worng one).
Will start when all is ok!

Ruatha

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give me a yell if/when you need a replacement http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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ok map Version 3... I used FQM Standard and still there are ring worlds... So I am going to use a stock generated map.

So if you are wondering why the game has not started...

My fault.

I will do the map today or sunday

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that's weord that it keeps giving you ringworlds, isn't it? I've never seen a FQM do that, but, I am not terribly experienced in it. Does seem unbalancing...

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maybe your FQM is messed up?

I think the whole NGC thing is all about the FQM maps, I dont think it would be the same without it.
though im not playing so I canat realy input http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

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Nah, aslong as it's a huge map 200+ systems it will be alright. FQm adds some but is not crucial.

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an i know Ruthia send me your fqm standard data files... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
And I will create the map with those data files

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Done.

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Ok, It will be atleast 18 hours until start.
I don't have the map now and I'm going to bed and in the morning to work.
When I get home I hope to start the game.

Se Ya.

BTW, it took less than a week to fill all 20 slots!

[ February 15, 2004, 20:26: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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map sent again

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You should just set it so that there is an empty oxygen ringworld right near the #3 player position. ahem.

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In Orbit of the Homeworld

Councillor Dokeo looked out the window into the depths of space. The view in front of him was all but barren, it was only filled by the partly completed form of a vessel. The Council had decided that for the good of the State expansion was needed, and to begin that task this vessel was to be built. Slowly Dokeo could hear two others approach his back, without turning he spoke.
"Is the construction on schedule?" he asked.
"Yes brother. We have all but completed" answered Ergon, Chief foreman for space construction. Dokeo knew Ergon to be a hardy worker, no effort to much for the good of the State. Where it not for the touch of the gods he might well have found himself working alongside. The Gods though had greater tasks in mind for Dokeo and he was glad to obey.
“We should build Warships, not glorified transports!” exclaimed Polemo, the Auxiliary representative. Dokeo was not surprised to hear such thoughts from the Soldier caste.
“Ever are we Guardians… and Tradesmen” said Dokeo motioning to Ergon, who nodded in reply” willing to listen to the Auxiliaries in time of conflict, and if and when we find others who might be a threat we shall heed your words, but for the moment the council has spoken and our tasks have been set”
“Hmmph” grunted Polemo.
“Continue with your tasks, my brothers, I shall return to the Council and report we are on schedule. For the good of the State” he ended.
“For the good of the State” replied the other representatives in unison, as tradition dictated.

[ February 18, 2004, 11:43: Message edited by: Randallw ]

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The Birthing Season

"Order!, Order in the council chambers."
"Good people, as you know the Birthing Season is upon us once again. However, this season if we do not expand our Colony we will soon perish as a species."

a wave of murmering and whispers spreads across the council chambers as people digest this sad but true fact.

"But fear not, our good colony minister 'Mr. Columbus' has a bold plan to expand our colony to nearby planets and even neighbouring star systems." The gathered crowd takes in a sharp gasp at this announcement.

"I know the idea of leaving your home world is a frightening one, but it is a necessary evil that we must embrace if we are to survive. I now put forth a call for vollenteers to brave the new frontiers that we shall discover. So any who would like the Honor and Gratitude of your fellow citizens please report to the Colony Minister for your new off-world assignments."

Surprisingly the vast majority of people raise their hands in excitement. Eager to become pioneers in this bold new era.

Let the games begin.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Good beginnings from the "True Republic" and the "Spelunker's" empires, both different but stirs the interest for the future....

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Yes, nice to see some stories even at start http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And they even managed to submit their turns in addition to writing...

Hurry up, we should be able to do a turn in less than 48 hours at start, shouldn't we???

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STOP!

One player uploaded the wrong empire file, using 0 racial points instead of 2000. Obviously he thinks this will be a serious handicap and has asked for a restart. I hate restarts, but I would have asked for it aswell if it was me! 16 players have uploaded their first turns, should we restart?
Opinions please, and fast, I'll decide before tomorrow morning (9 hours from now).

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Is there a way you can use the current .plr files to run the first turn again when we get the correct .emp file from this player? It seems to me like you would be able to if the starting positions are the same and everything, but I may be mistaken.

But I think we should go ahead with the restart. At least it was now and not 20 turns in. Being the first turn it isn't too much of a hassle to remake our turns. That is MHO of course.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Is there a way you can use the current .plr files to run the first turn again when we get the correct .emp file from this player? It seems to me like you would be able to if the starting positions are the same and everything, but I may be mistaken.

But I think we should go ahead with the restart. At least it was now and not 20 turns in. Being the first turn it isn't too much of a hassle to remake our turns. That is MHO of course. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Starting positions are random, so no go on old plr files.
I'll go out and run my laps in the forest now and then off to bed. But if I haven't too many angry mails in my mailbox in the morning we'll restart.

Edit: It's an old tradition in the NGC games to restart! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ February 16, 2004, 18:58: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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Ok, sure, np with restart (I had a bad start anyway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) - but please ASAP. Do you already have a new empire file? If not, kick that player as hard as possible so you will get it NOW ! Another 72 hours to wait for the Last .emp should not be needed.

[ February 16, 2004, 19:13: Message edited by: Roanon ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I got a new empire file, but I don't have the energy to do it tonight http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
When I restart I want to check every empire file and every starting planet to minimize restarts, this time I only checked starting planets, in the restart I'll check empire info aswell http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

No, now there's no excuse anymore. Off I go to exercise my poor legs....

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I have no problem with a restart, I'm all for a nice fair start. then there will be no excuses when I win. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I guess we won't need to upload our empires again, just load and play our first turn again right?