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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Is this an always thing, or just intermitant. What browser do you use?

EDIT: I think I know what was causing that problem Gpa. Tell me if it works now.

Geoschmo

[ November 01, 2003, 09:25: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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Geo, this is an "all the time" thing. And it still doesn't work for me. I get the redirect page then the not found page.

Please don't worry about it, it is probably my antique browser (Netscape 4.79), OS (Win 95), and hardware (P 133), a problem I plan to correct by spring.

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Confirmed, I can't get to the site either, using both IE & Mozilla.
Unable to ping the site too.

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Actually the redirect page at seiv.pbw.cc is down now. I am not sure what's up with that. The actual temp site that you get redirected to is up still. That's at home.covad.net/~geoschmo

You should be able to get that to work Gpa. Let me know.

Geoschmo

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Yes!

I can get to it now! Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Anyone else get the feeling Geo lives in an area were there is one and only one provider of high speed net access? I'll bet with a bit of healthy competition the connection could be moved just a wee bit faster.

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And what have we learned from this? Never, NEVER, believe ANYTHING the phone company tells you about its DSL service. NEVER

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Oh, I think anyone could have made that mistake...who's to know about those sort of things unless you've gone through it before, Geo.

Any comment I made was directed toward all the readers about when representatives of the phone company tell you something, official or unofficial. THAT'S when you need to cock an eyebrow... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

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I have a RASH!!! HELP!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Apparently, something has changed.
seiv.pbw.cc is resolved to 66.28.187.248, which has a 2 lines long web page saying "No web site is configured at this address."...

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Currently seiv.pbw.cc is resolved to a temporary page that a guy set up for me. All it has on it is a page redirecting players to the temporary PBW site at http://home.covad.net/~geoschmo
The Last few days the redirect page has been intermitant. All I can assume is he's haveing some technical issues with his site. If you can't get to it you should be able to connect directly to the temp site though. The URL isn't as easily remembered though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ November 06, 2003, 19:09: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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Actually there are several options for highspeed service in my area. Unfotunatly the one I have is the only one that I could find that had the combinatiion of features I needed for PBW, good upload speed, fixed IP, permission to run a web server 24x7, a low enough monthly cost to make it possible to support via voluntary donations. If all I wanted was highspeed access for my own personal use I could take my pick of several decent choices in the area.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What I learned is if you are moving your DSL, get a new phone number at the new location. I thought I was doing the right thing keeping the old number. It turns out if I had gotten a new number they could have turned on the one without turning off the other and the down time would have been shorter. Unfotunatly by the time I asked the right questions It was too late to do that because I had to have the server out of the old place anyway by a certain date.

Geoschmo

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There is a spot open in NGC3, a challange at position 18 of 20, The Xorlians:

http://pbw.ath.cx

mail me for password if you want to check it out!
Could help against those withdrawal symptoms!

james@visit.se

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, the provider has already missed his "unofficial" installation estimate of a week or so. Now, unless they get their *** in gear, they will miss their "official" estimate of 2 - 4 weeks for the install.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the offer, but will do only temp takeover, to allow a player to get some holiday without screwing his game. So if someone need it in your game, you have the offer. But let me guess : was it another doomed religious race ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Anyway, another game and adamant9 finished to convince me that religious is indeed an over powerful trait.

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do you get some kind of copmensation if its not done in the time they said?

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Blood!

Demand blood!

Really, it's just nice to have around, for those little need-blood-now emergencies. Keep it right next to the spare pants and the prophylactics.

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Sigh.

PBW still down and my stock of pills is running low.
It has been almost 3 weeks now, my withdrawal symptoms are beginning to be painful.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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prophywhat?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not at all, the Xorlians are merely a warmonger species that declared war on three or four of their neighbours. Ruatha, I believe you can forget about this Empire if nobody wants to take it in the following days, as I don't expect the Xorlians to survive much longer, even if I am the only one involved in offensive operations. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif And then, diplomacy will definitively be needed. So only take over the Xorlians if you are really up to the challenge, and a good diplomat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Your religious race was far from being doomed UE, it is currently 13th, but has a decent strength. The Free Democratic Socialist Republic of Somewhere is much stronger than my old NethernoS for instance. Not to mention the talisman, but I should not speak of such a device lest Ruatha overhears. *Smirks* Perhaps the discovery of the Nyxian Chaos decided Ruatha not to attack the Republic? Who knows?

(Incidentally, I have been late as for the promised story Ruatha, with regards to the current... erh... relationships between us. Sorry, I had something like a writer's block. *Grumbles*)

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Hi, (Sorry to HiJack the thread)
I hope to have a shell of a autoturn application up and running tonight, so then the turn might run on time on sunday instead of being delayed half a day until I get home, we'll see...


(Talisman, Hmm, what does he mean??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )

EDIT:
Nah, I got it to run the turn at the deadline, zip it and move it to the gamefile directory.
but i haven't solved the mail allplayers thing yet, so I'll do the turn Manually when I get home!

[ November 13, 2003, 21:14: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So it autoexecutes the turn, but just does not mail the results - this means we can download the turn from the website? I don't need more... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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What did they do - strap the server on the back of a lethargic snail!?! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Well, I guess this is officially the 4th week of unofficially getting the DSL connection done in a week or less.

BTW, Geo, what's the name again? I just want to make sure I warn everyone away that ever asks about them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif .

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Well, depending on when you start counting, it's either 3 weeks and 1 day or 2 weeks and 4 days. Unfortunatly the ISP doesn't actually do the hookup, they have to contact the phone company to get it done. So it's actually the phone company holding us up at this point. The one week figure was simply what the phone company had been running at recently. Obviously they must have gotten backed up and are not running that fast anymore.

If I could hook it up myself I would.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I figured as much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

(I have all these ships and fleets that have been training in our game now for weeks and weeks of "real" time...by now, they must be up to 40% x 40% each.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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Well, the Last turn email I got was on the evening of the 22nd. I figure PBW was disconnected sometime on the 23rd. That's when I'm counting from.

So, as of right now, that is 22 days. .... of agony! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Well, not so bad really. I finished a couple solo games but couldn't get the interest to start another... so I started a game of Civ II and I'm having a whale of a time! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I haven't played it in so long its almost as much fun as the first time I played it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Just don't load up Civ 3... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Anyone know where I can start a company were I can screw around my clients like this and still make money? It sound sweet!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Up for a civnet game sometime?

Roanon, I didn't start the app before I left so it won't run the turn, will be home tomorrow night (12 hours x 2 in a car with two small kids, that's a weekend!)

[ November 15, 2003, 11:49: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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Actually I am playing a game of Civ3 Conquests. Unlike PTW and the vanilla Civ3 it actually makes for a worthwhile game.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Count me in. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Really? Did they finally get off their corporate butts and actually fix the game? Or how is it a worthwhile game wiht Conquests?

[ November 15, 2003, 16:57: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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Civ II... which one?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, technically they aren't making any money since I don't get billed for any time until the service is reestablished.

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But they are jerking you around now and will still be making money off of you in the future...

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Let's move the Civ 2 discussion to a new thread, located here:

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=23;t=010383

[ November 16, 2003, 04:14: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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so, what is the deal with a 3 week dsl installation anyway geo? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

fill us in with some sort of eta...

its been waaay toooo looong

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Actually, I would be happy if it was a 3-week installation...it would already be done. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif It was taken down on Oct 23. 8 days in October and this is the 17th day in November...that means this is the 25th day of waiting.

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Three weeks for a DSL hookup is not anything extraordinary at all. That's normal for some areas.

Guys, honestly. Do you not think I would post updates here as soon as I get them? Do you not assume that me not posting anything here means that I have nothing to post? I don't mind people posting actual questions, but if your only question is "Can we get an eta?", then maybe read the rest of this thread and see the Last time I gave you an eta. Cause if I haven't posted anything since then, and that eta hasn't passed yet, then chances are real good I don't have any new information.

All that being said, I have some new information! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I just got an email saying the DSL line should be installed by the 21st. So we can all hope that they actually meet that goal. At least it's some news.

Geoschmo

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Hey Geo,

Can we get an ETA ?

oooops....HeHe...Just couldn't resist......
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I'm curious about this DSL hookup...is this just a normal DSL hookup that a user would use to surf the internet from thier home computer or is it a specialized one designed for servers?

If it's the former, I'm suprised it would take so long just to setup an account for that, who'd want to wait over 3 weeks just to get service - yikes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Anyone in the US...

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You need a static IP in order for a server to work properly. Normal DSL usually makes a forced disconnect at regular intervalls, just to make sure you don't get a static IP, so they can charge ridiculous overprices for static. Few noteworthy exeptions.

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Not really. You can use services like www.no-ip.org to keep your server up to date. As long as you have a stable IP (as in, it stays the same for a few days) and can keep on top of changes, the downtimes are minimal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This isn't a good idea for huge web sites like www.microsoft.com, but for something with the relatively low traffic of PBW, it is not a big problem. Of course, you could always write a program to detect changes in IP address and send the appropriate commands to get the IP of the domain updated automatically...

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"Minimal downtime" is not running a server properly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .
Plus, especially with PBW rather than microsoft.com (who really needs it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), where you have to rely on the server, or you will end up with "manual only" constantly. You cannot run automated turns on a server that may be unavailable for the Last half hour before deadline.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am fully aware that this is doable from a technical aspect. The problem is it violates the user agreement, at least for the few isp's I looked into in my area. Also keep in mind that PBW requires a decent upload speed to be a consistantly functional game server. In fact it's uploading more then it's downloading. Your typical residential dsl, even many cable modems, run in the 128 range on the upload. I was told when I took over the service form Admiral that 128 upload was not enough.

Geoschmo

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This should be THE DAY !!!
The day on which we get PBW back up !!!!!!!

Isn't it ?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, assuming there's no repeat of the line not working after it's "hooked" up and the two involved parties point the finger at each other (like we've seen before).

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is nice to know that not only in Poland there are peoples who would rather pass the buck upon someone else. :-|