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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds good.
Geo, Looks like 1 game is ready to rock, when your ready. Thanks.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I certainly don't want to do that. Fighting my way thru you & Asmala is going to be hard enough in Pairs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You BET!

(Whoa! Punman strikes again!)

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In an effort to try my best to keep up with Geo, all the games are now posted to the Ratings site. (the games page just got LONGER!).

Good luck to everyone BUT, remember, sometimes you have to make your own "luck"... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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By the way, if you haven't seen the realy kewl description Geo made on the PBW site for each game, take a look! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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Cool game description, but I guess it required some work:

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Yes Joachim, I agree with default settings and no Ancient. Would Intelligence be allowed or not? (I don't recall if it is allowed or disabled in the KOTH settings) Feel free to bet against your defeat, but I for one don't have a clue about the outcome of the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

But hopefully, Grazic will be right in saying every first player will win his game, during the first round that is! (Afterwards, both of us would rather the second player to win. *Grins*) Good luck for making it to the final so that we may play our game at Last. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yep, intel is in. Will upload emp now.

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Slynky vs Lord Chane: Game Settings

Standard KOTH with these changes:

(1) One GOOD starting planet;
(2) No intel
(3) No ancient

Tks, Geo!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">don't wonder - he killed me twice in unicup tournament and once in koth - all three 1:1 games
and slynky i'll face you when i lose right? :-P


rex - settings please? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">yes geo - big mistake it is :-P

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Yeah, georgig, it's a bit dismaying to me as I look at my positioning. To do well at all, I will need to win against Lord Chane (admittedly, I think, more possible that what would follow...gulp), and then Rex, and then Asmala. Yuck. I'd rather have been in the lower 8 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Even worse, anyone losing the first game can do no better than 9th place...if I understand things.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is correct.

Edit: Hmmm, maybe that isn't right though. The person that loses the first game and wins the next three shouldn't place below the guy who wins the first game and loses teh next three. I have to think abtou this for a bit.

[ November 27, 2003, 19:31: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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It depends, if this individual wins against Asmala but losts his three other games, he deserves to be rated higher than the player who losts his first game but wins the three others. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

More seriously, I would agree with Slynky, although I am not sure how you could tweak the brackets. (Except for a score rating of some sort that is)

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Ok, I adjusted it a bit. I had to kind of make it up cause normally with a bracket like this you lose one and you are out.

Now if you lose the first game and win the next three you end up with 5th place for the tournament. Below the other 3-1 players that won their first game, but above the 2-2 and 1-3 players that won their first game.

I think this is a fair system. Of course it only matters for tournament purposes. The real question is how many points in the Ratings system will you earn or lose for the tournament. And that cannot be predicted without knowing for sure who you will face. And could be affected by non-tournament games that you finish at the same time, so I can't really use that for a tourney result.

Geoschmo

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Slynky -vs- Lord Chane: Year 2400.1

No sign of the varmit yet.

(OK, so that was a boring game update. But, hey, the game is afoot!)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes Asmala, yours was the pilot. The others won't have all those. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This was the first time I had experimented with iframe tags. I think it worked out rather well.

Geoschmo

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Grazic's EEEvil EEEmpire Vs Parabolize's Banana Repulic 2403.0

The insanity of EEEmpire Grazic is beyond doubt but wEEE are confused as to the sanity of the "Evil Person" called Parabolize.

2402.3 - The EEEvil EEEpire demands the surrender of the Banana Repblic and wEEE receive no reply.
2402.5 - An EEEvil "big ship" destroys a fledgling colony and wEEE receive no reply.
2402.6 - EEEvil "big ship" destroys a colony ship which attempts to attack our ship. This insane action makes us belive that Parabolize is insane and that we should be friends.
2402.7 - wEEE offer a treaty of Military Alliance and receive a reply saying "alliance? i think not!"
2403.0 - An EEEvil "big ship" destroys another fledgling colony and wEEE receive no reply.

The "Evil Person" called Parabolize, doesn't want friendship. He doesn't create War ships.
He plans are beyond the comprehention of our insane brain. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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parabolize is in BIG trouble:
i have 3 planets with over 90% minerals http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Now I know you have over 3 planets, so don't try to trick us. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif We did start with a Huge Breatherable in our home system, which is 'still' building Research Centres.

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Slynky -vs- Lord Chane: 2401.6

For the game we agreed to standard KOTH settings with two exceptions: no Ancient Race and no intel. The resulting empires are nearly identical. The only significant difference is that Slynky chose Propulsion Experts while Lord Chane opted for Natural Merchants. Otherwise, Slynky's native planet type is rock/none, while mine is rock/CO2. The map appears to be split nearly in half. Can't say how it is for Slynky but I'm finding a lot of breathables.

We met somewhere between 4 and 6 turns ago. The only casualty so far is a ship of Slynky's which ran into one of my mine fields.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">don't wonder - he killed me twice in unicup tournament and once in koth - all three 1:1 games
and slynky i'll face you when i lose right? :-P


rex - settings please? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How about standard KOTH settings.

I would have preferred to play someone else because you know all my "tricks" based on all the games we've played.

[ November 28, 2003, 23:47: Message edited by: rextorres ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">don't wonder - he killed me twice in unicup tournament and once in koth - all three 1:1 games
and slynky i'll face you when i lose right? :-P


rex - settings please? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How about standard KOTH settings.

I would have preferred to play someone else because you know all my "tricks" based on all the games we've played. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">mmm yeah http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif what is a 'standart koth settings'?

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Bbegemont has the early lead in our match. He's got the advantage of position and has been able to set up some pretty decent early game defenses on the strategic warp points. I am going to have trouble unless he makes a mistake, something he doesn't make too many of based on my previous experience with him.

Geoschmo

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Ratings Bash - Gecko vs Steal Dragon
2404.5

Gecko defeats Steal Dragon. Thanks for a good game Steal Dragon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Is anyone ready for Round 2? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Gecko

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I am suffering a lot against Joachim, for the map was mean, at least for me. (I am not sure if Joachim was as unlucky as I, or if he had much better systems) Now the situation has somewhat improved, even if I am still in trouble. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Grazic's EEEvil EEEmpire Vs Parabolize's Banana Repulic 2406.5

Parabolize surrenders to the EEEvil EEEmpire.

Looking at the finial map, Parabolize started with most of the useless systems in his half.

I hope you get a better start next game Parabolize. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Then we are both in suffer land .... I really hate the look of nebulae in a one on one game.

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I see, I thought the order would remain the same. So we will probably not meet again, unless we were to win our respective games. Good luck Geoschmo, for we will need it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Slynky -vs- Lord Chane Year: 2406.1

Lord Chane surrenders.

(if case some didn't know it)

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BTW geo all emp. files loaded and ready to start game

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Geo, is there a location where one can see the "whole picture"? Where the 2nd pairings are being set up? I went back to the earlier post to see if it was updated but.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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This is in the description of the Bash games: http://seiv.pbw.cc/bracket.html

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, as Asmala says it's on that page. I stopped updating the bracket in this forum post. Sorry, I'll fix that...done.

Geoschmo

[ December 10, 2003, 18:43: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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Tks, guys! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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A single nebulae? It isn't that bad, really. Much better than one blackhole, *two* nebulaes, and an asteroid belt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It seems like my next opponent will be, once again, Geoschmo, unless he makes it against BBegemot. *Frowns* At any rate, I should get ready for this next struggle.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Things are not going well against Bbegmont. However, the only way you'd be assured of facing me in the second round is if both of us were to win our games. For the losers brackets I am simply putting people in as their games end rather then trying to keep them in any sort of seed order. That may have been a mistake, but I already did it for the Lord Chane Parbolize game and think I should stay consistant.

Geoschmo

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Continuing any longer is pointless. Bbegemont is victorius. Really was no contest I am afraid. Please update the Ratings Slynky, I'll take care of the tourney bracket.

Geoschmo

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Yeh, Geo, I'll get to it tonight when I get home from work.

PS: I'm starting to feel like you and Nodachi are in the same "rut". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Quote:

PS: I'm starting to feel like you and Nodachi are in the same "rut".

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Nah, Geo handed me my arse in a KOTH game so don't lump him in with me, that would be bad luck for him! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Actually, my KOTH record is the reason I haven't signed up with the Ratings thing. If I understand the Ratings system correctly, why would anyone want to face me? Beating me wouldn't be worth much! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, but they might figure you for an easy win. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
A win, no matter how easy will net you more points then a loss, no matter how hard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Actually, lately I seem to be in a win one-lose one rut. Would be nice to win a bunch in a row, but unfortunatly it doesn't appear that I am that good.

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Well then I'll go ahead and sign up. I love one-on-one games and that format would seem to favor a Ratings system... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've always encouraged people to join regardless of how good they are. I think over time that everyone gets better and besides getting better and winning more games, there's nothing like seeing your rating rise as proof.

May I suggest contacting a guy who joined recently named Fire. He isn't an extroaordinary player...seems like you 2 would have a good game.

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Yes, go ahead Nodachi, you will always find players willing to play with you no matter what your rating is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I am in the same situation Geoschmo, a defeat, a win, a win, a defeat, a win and very likely a defeat now. *Grumbles* And with my next KOTH match against Grazic, I should be ready to add another defeat to my record. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL. You are not the only one in that rut. I seem to be in a boom and bust cycle too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gecko

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Alneyan vs Joachim: Year 2403.5 or so.

It hurts. Joachim managed to repel my attempts to invade his systems while retaliating and disabling my excuse for a fleet. (Seeker ship vs seeker ship, heads or tails?) Of course, lagging behind in research and not having mines does hurt. A lot.

However, while my Empire was on its knees and very near surrender, Joachim didn't deal the coup-de-grâce. How merciful he is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Happiness was decreasing everywhere, and my radioactives storages were a mere two digits. Winning a few other battles would have probably spelled massive riots, and as such, destruction of the Arcadia League. Still, my Empire is in a very poor shape, with slightly more than half the galaxy under its greedy hands. (But the worst half as far as I know) But as long as there is hope, we shall not surrender and we will stand to the mighty frigates of our oppressor in our finest hour and... I digress.

Joachim played well, unlike me as I am playing one of my worst games, on par with my slaughter against Geoschmo. (As know as, why putting ECM, Combat Sensors and training the ships isn't optional, unless winning is also optional for you) Researching Destroyer rather than Mines being quite a big mistake, as these little shiny devices would have been able to keep Joachim at bay so much more efficiently than these so unreliable missile ships. (Is a missile ship ever working properly when in the hands of the non-entity known as an AI? Nodachi had problems with these as well in our game.)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If I had a fleet we might have delivered the coup de grace.... The "ships" that hit your planets were panic builds when I saw your ships through the warp hole just before I mined it. I was very surprised that they managed to paste as many colonies as they did!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yep, I had them working successfully in my Last KOTH game. I had lone missile Escorts blockading a number of worlds and they danced around the missiles on the weapon platforms perfectly. The odd one got smashed, but on the whole, they won the game for me.
Just make sure that before you build them, you have already changed their strat to 'Max range'.
If you don't believe me I'll show you in our game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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hey http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

about loser sub-brackets - with current rules (first come first serve) when asmala-tesco game finishes there will be a big lag in all other games :-)

georgi

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I believe his meaning is that once a game with two skilled opponents ends, the other players might be encouraged to delay the end of their games so that they will not meet a very tough opponent on next turn. However, I don't believe this would actually happen.

Joachim, I don't know how many more battles were needed to destroy my happiness levels, but I do think it was pretty close. If you were very mean you might have sent this ship of yours to blockade my tiny rock planet in the Last system you invaded, as stalemates hurt morale if memory serves right. Or even a war declaration might have been enough. But still, I now see why you should built these mines before going on the offensive, especially when all your ships are only here to try to hold an additional, much needed system. So I believe you will definitively win, but I shall try my best to remain alive for a while. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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How you're going to delay the end if the enemy is crushing you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif And the crusher has no reason to delay the game.

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Ah, yes that is probably what he meant. I can see how that might be possible. The crushee could slow the game by simply not playing their turns. Although I hope noone would do such a thing. I doubt it will happen, but if it does I'll deal with it.