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I picked Marignon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Waiting for someone to play Abysia and T'ien Ch'i. I think we've waited long enough so I'll give it another 24 hours to fill, then start the game.

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I take Abysya!
I go create the pretender!

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Orania Quick has started. There is no T'ien Ch'i.
Good luck everyone! And please remember to go to computer control if you drop out.

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Ok something strange is going on. I uploaded my pretender a while ago, and I just went in to play my turn, and that is not my pretender or scales. There wasn't even a password. What the heck is going on? The scales are so messed up, I'm pretty much screwed. Is it possible for someone else to upload over me? I'm playing Man.

Vig

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif You have been gazumped. Unfortunately, the only available remedy is to restart the game, which I don't want to do as it has taken so long to get it started in the first place. And there would be no guarantee that another gazumping would not occur.

Many people, myself included, are desperately hoping that Illwinter will give us some protection from gazumpers in the next patch.

In the meantime, your only alternatives are to play the broken position, or go to AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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wouldn't be so bad if the productivity scale wasn't -3! I'll play and see what I can do with this.

Vig

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If your scales have been deliberately screwed over in such a fashion, this may be deliberate sabotage.

This wouldn't surprise me: It appears the game may have been sabotaged again: The system is down!

While the game shows as one minute to host....and has been doing so for nearly an hour now, it is impossible to connect: Further investigation reveals the designated port is simply not listening. Consultation of the Magic 8-Ball reveals "Outlook not so good.". Don't use Outlook, obviously. It sucks.

[ May 12, 2004, 19:32: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The good news: The game wasn't saboatage, and I've fixed the game. Every single game is going to crash at next turn, unless the game owner restarts the game before then. I had to upgrade a software component --- And being lazy I just upgraded the whole shebang. Unfortunately, that means some modules have changed names, and so on.

The bad news: This has effectively reset the counter to 18hours. So next turn will be a while. But then Abysia and Atlantis might take their turn and solve that little problem.

As for the sabotage of vigabrand: If anyone is going to be sabotaged, I'd think it would be Norfleet --- since he is rumored to be the best player. So for my money, someone was just plain incompetent. I'll have to work on some strategies to prevent this --- see the main server thread. My condolescense to vigabrand :-( Take it as a challenge or become computer controlled and start a new game. It is not as though it takes very long to get a enough players....

Maybe we should all use this strategy in the game: Strike at Norfleet! ;-) ;-) (Peter will know what I mean. )

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, it helps that I've developed the paranoid habit of constantly reuploading myself.

Perhaps you should set it so that if a slot is claimed by a player, and somebody overwrites it, the player who is overwritten is either notified, or the slot becomes anonymous again. Either way, then the player in question is warned.

Alternatively, you can implement my web-based game start idea, which will also allow us to crack down on AWOLers by blacklisting them on detection and banning them from future games.

[ May 12, 2004, 22:44: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Speaking of AWOLers, we appear to have 3 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Abysia, Atlantis and Jotunheim have all had more than 18 hours to play, but there's no sign of them.

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Well, I know IKerensky is in the game. Takes more than one missed turn, on 18h hosting, to be AWOL.

I have no idea who "Barog" is, and Abysia is most likely AWOL from turn 1, since he has no identified player.

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Abysia is Cohen, who has been fairly active on the forum in the past. He was also the Last player to join, so I'd be surprised if he has vanished so quickly.

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Cohen has been missing in action for awhile now. He used to be a channel regular, but hasn't been seen in a week. At the moment, he is missing and presumed dead.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmm. His Last post in this thread is dated two days ago.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That would strongly suggest that foul play is involved, as clearly the person who murdered him has appointed an impostor to slowly phase him out so we believe nothing is wrong.

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as of my posting abysia, atlantis, and jotunheim have 15 minutes or they stale.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks. Unless they post here to the contrary, I will assume they did stale. Any of them that stale again this turn will be moved to computer control.

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Even with the master password set, it's impossible to bot them if they are passworded: The master password is currently not usable from remote clients.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmm, I didn't know that. So why did Esben create an input that allows a master password to be set? If what you say is true, he is the only person that could use it.

Perhaps we could impose on him to bot our AWOLers.

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He created the input based on popular demand, and finished it before noticing my point that it didn't work remotely. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

As for imposing on Mose to do it for you, that's not really possible either: Mosehansen's server is a Linux box with no ability to load the game graphically: As such, he cannot operate the game remotely, except through an extremely bothersome procedure of downloading the game to a properly equipped box, making the necessary changes, and then reuploading it back. Probably a bit too bothersome to expect of him.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, dammit. I thought I was going to be able to bot AWOLers, but apparently I can't. Looks like it's 18 hours per turn until we kill them. Grrrr http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

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This should be fixed on the next patch, so we could get lucky. Actually, the server [b]is[b] capable of graphics, but it does not have a monitor :)Dominions2 will not load unless you have the graphics (X) server installed, even if you intend never to use it. But it is unconfigured, and starting it would probably kill the poor thing under it's current load.

As for stop->trans->make computer controlled->trans->restart, that just might work. But it is,,as you say, quite bothersome. Worse, it sounds risky. I might do it anyhow, since the 18-hours schedule is a bit sad...

Why does every game have at least one AWOL? :'-(

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This should be fixed on the next patch, so we could get lucky. Actually, the server [b]is[b] capable of graphics, but it does not have a monitor :)Dominions2 will not load unless you have the graphics (X) server installed, even if you intend never to use it. But it is unconfigured, and starting it would probably kill the poor thing under it's current load.

As for stop->trans->make computer controlled->trans->restart, that just might work. But it is,,as you say, quite bothersome. Worse, it sounds risky. I might do it anyhow, since the 18-hours schedule is a bit sad...

Why does every game have at least one AWOL? :'-(

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think it's either a fundamental property of the Universe (like Maxwell's equations and the inverse-square law for action at a distance) or God's retribution for our disbelief in His existence. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think it's either a fundamental property of the Universe (like Maxwell's equations and the inverse-square law for action at a distance) or God's retribution for our disbelief in His existence. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, I think it has more to do with the fact 90% of the Internet population consists of smacktards. You should consider yourself fortunate that Dominions II is such an elitist game and as such, you expect only a few AWOLers! If this were any other game, you could expect at least half the players to be AWOL!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think it's either a fundamental property of the Universe (like Maxwell's equations and the inverse-square law for action at a distance) or God's retribution for our disbelief in His existence. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, I think it has more to do with the fact 90% of the Internet population consists of smacktards. You should consider yourself fortunate that Dominions II is such an elitist game and as such, you expect only a few AWOLers! If this were any other game, you could expect at least half the players to be AWOL!

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I'm having troulbe connecting to this game. I log in as normal but Dominions locks up when showing the screen "Waiting for game info"

It actually happend to me on my main computer Last turn, but when I tried it from another computer I logged in fine.

Now both computer are having the same problem. I tried deleting the game and logging in again but that didn't help.

Anyone have any other ideas?

Thanks!

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It seems to be intermittent at best. If this happens, kill Dom2, retry. This usually gets you in.

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Damn, the web page didn't get my signup and I staled 5 turns ... I try to play but I believe I'm too behind ...

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Your right Norfleet. The 3rd try worked. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Thanks!

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I've been totally unable to connect to this game for a couple of days now, and it looks like turns have been hosting since then. I'd appreciate it if there wa at least some warning given that I was going to stale my turns.

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i've been unable to connect also. If this many people have had these problems perhaps we should restart without the peopel who dropped.

odd_enuf

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Man, this game is just regularly cursed, isn't it? Two or three failed starts, a crash, and now this.

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dp

[ May 16, 2004, 20:24: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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tp

[ May 16, 2004, 20:23: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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Yeah, i thought i uploaded a turn Last night and today i find out i didnt.... but i still had just enough time to go stale by 1 minute. hooray.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, this works for me too.
Ctl-Alt-Delete, End Task, Re-launch Dom2 invariably gets through for me.

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Rather than restarting this game we created another one with the same setings. So if you are unhappy with your start you can switch to AI and join this game... or play both if you feel daring.

All the rules and settings are the same except for the hall of fate settings. I reduced the hall of fame from 15 down to 14, I thought this would give the game a vastly different feel and perhaps a luckier beggining.

The port is 2238. Please join and register on Mosehansen.

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I'm at work now, so I must be brief.

First I'm going to stale this turn; it's not because I'm not playing, just that I forgot to check yesterday evening. (Got to playing Neverwinter Night, and suddenly it was midnight)

Secondly, if you're willing to get an Jabber account, warning if about-to-stale is in the works. I'm thinking about a 2-hour warning.

Thirdly, even I have the problems with login (on a local network). I THINK the cause is the server pushing 430Mb swap, and thus needs a little time to bring the requested game into memory. Or it could be a bug. But since I'm having the problem on the internal network rules out firewalls and other connectivity problems.

Finally, if too many people (>40% or so) are AI or AWOL by now, I will go AI, too. I can play with the AI in a less inconvenient manner http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Not sure if I'll rejoin... Norfleet seems just a wee bit trigger happy with restarting this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Huh? I'm not involved in the restarting of the game at all. I have no idea what you're talking about.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry, brain malfunction. Writing from work, wrote too quickly, too many edits, it went awry. Sorry to slander your name :-(

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Turn 7 just ran, and only 7 players submitted orders, which is absurd. This game is clearly defunct, so I'll stop it and return the slot.

Apologies to the 6 other people still playing - I suggest you move over to the other similar game that is starting. Maybe it won't suffer the same connection problems that have plagued this one.

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Well someone started the new game I created... we had built all the way to three players.

Maybe this game is cursed...

Another one is up. Aptly named "Orania - Do not start"

Same rules, same settings as the orginal.
Port 2260

Actually I increaded the turn time to 24 hours. Hopefully that will make it easier for people

[ May 17, 2004, 15:09: Message edited by: Maltrease ]

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i'll join the new one then, go ahead and bot me on the old, i've had bad luck, i don't have a pw.

odd_enuf

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This happened twice when Orania_Quick was filling. If it happens again to you, I suggest not advertising the port number here on the Shrapnel forum.

If you make people go to the mosehansen server to discover the port number, you may get fewer non-serious signups (which includes people inclined to click the Start Game button)

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I have just created a solution for this. Check the news on the welcome page on the server. Basically, you just enable the "Disallow clients to start game" option; and then disables it when you wish to start the game.

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Nice job!

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um, the latest Version of the game on Mose doesn't mention any special rules. Are we still banning VQ and limiting clams?

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Yes. All the game settings and rules are the same.