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Gandalf Parker July 12th, 2004 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Norfleet:
Me, I feel that there's no meat quite like freshly killed, especially if you killed it yourself.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Meat is better after it's been hung up for a while and allowed to age (bleed) a day or so. It's by far more tender than cooking it freshly-dead. I prefer my (rare) steak to be tender and juicy, not tough and jerky-like. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ever read the description of "Dropped Duck"?

Saber Cherry July 12th, 2004 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
What does this game involve? How do you play it? And what is that THING? Is it shiny?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How can you ask such a silly question? It's closely related to you, from the looks of your avatar...=)

The game is, er... actually, I'm about to start graduate school in artificial intelligence. So, the game is a study in artificial intelligence that happens to have graphics, so I can see what's going on. But, despite how it looks, the majority of my effort went into graphics (and making them fast) so that the AI is still half-baked=)

I'm thinking the plot might be something like... say... there's a really small robot. Or there are really big bugs. And, they fight! Also, the bugs are evil so you have to save the world, and you're the only one who can do it because your father left you the family's treasured giant robot (or tiny robot).

Just kidding, that sounds pretty lame! Hahaha...

Ok, really, I think the plot will involve magical mitochondria capable of a direct matter-to-energy conVersion of Elerium, thus allowing insects to grow to fantastic sizes depsite their lack of an efficient circulatory system. The gameplay will by a hybrid of X-COM, Privateer, Secret of Mana, and possibly Sim Farm. (This paragraph is actually true.)

Of course, you can also just sit back and watch the bugs run around and eat each other, which is pretty fun. For some people.

spirokeat July 12th, 2004 10:29 AM

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Blood pudding ? thats Black Pudding where I come from and its lovely fried, though you get it in a white variety too.

Tripe is also nice, though I dont see that as often as I used to anymore. Nice plate of honeycomb tripe or elder smothered in vinegar on a saturday afternoon. yum.

Ox heart is also nice, but takes a damn long time to cook.

Spiro.

Chazar July 12th, 2004 10:55 AM

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I like the thread's new topic about exotic food. And I like exotic food (actually I wanted to eat bugs at the EXPO2000 in Hannover, but the queue was way too long for me to wait).

But that leads to a Dom-related question: I think that considering a pest to be edible is a good way to get rid of the pest. (Didnt the french pull that trick recently with a foreign frog/toad species that was crowding out the native species?) So where is this concept in Dom2? Are there any creatures eating up their enemies?

I think Dom2 covers an awful variety of themes, but this might acutally be a part they forgot... (And I dont accept scavengers/undead varieties like Eater of the Dead.)

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[ July 12, 2004, 09:58: Message edited by: Chazar ]

HotNifeThruButr July 12th, 2004 11:12 AM

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I'm not sure if we're talking about the same blood, but I like mine in a tofu-like consistency. And we all know how easy it is to get our hands on buffalo, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Taqwus July 12th, 2004 04:37 PM

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Those who wish to satisfy their insectivorous urges could do worse than to search for a company called "Edible Limited". BBQ worm crisps, chocolate ant bars, and scorpion lollipops, oh my!

July 12th, 2004 05:00 PM

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Don't make fun of Cherry's bugs!

I believe they are cute and vicious, precisely what bugs should be!

Arryn July 12th, 2004 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Zen:
Don't make fun of Cherry's bugs!

I believe they are cute and vicious, precisely what bugs should be!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Aren't programmers supposed to eradicate bugs, not deliberately create them? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

July 12th, 2004 05:25 PM

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Not when they are cute and vicious. That is I also think the term bug is too liberally applied. Though I wouldn't mind seeing an Alien tear through a server case and devour a user every once in a while, but only because I believe that the end of civilization is the self-checkout at the grocery store.

Arryn July 12th, 2004 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Zen:
I believe that the end of civilization is the self-checkout at the grocery store.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree. A most ill-conceived notion if ever there was one. An attempt to cut business costs (payroll) at the expense of customer convenience. What makes it especially egregious is that it's masked as an attempt to *improve* customer service. Yeah, right. A cashier can check someone through far faster than the customer can do the work themselves. Customers have too many buttons they need to push (a bad UI) and it still requires a cashier's involvement despite paying by credit card. Self-service gasoline and banking make sense. Self-service retail shopping does not.

Sheap July 12th, 2004 06:57 PM

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Actually, I prefer the self-serve checkout. I do understand that the stores are doing this to cut costs at the expense of the customer. But I find that I am almost as fast as a cashier at scanning my items, and I can scan and bag in one motion (rather than having to do them separately) so that is actually faster.

Invariably when I wait in a regular checkout line, someone in front of me is a moron and holds up the show for ages. This happens even more often with self-serve checkout, but when it happens it only reduces throughput by 25% instead of 100%.

Finally since the self-service checkout is restricted in the number of items you can bring through, and many people are reluctant to use them, and because the line leads to four checkouts instead of one, the lines are much shorter and move faster. Which is important to me, not because my time is exceptionally valuable, but because I really, really hate waiting in line.

On the other hand, I do agree with Arryn that self-serve gasoline is an absolute necessity of life. I am simply glad that New Jersey is a small state that I don't live in. There are many reasons for this, but among them is that when I have to drive through it, I can fill up beforehand and not have to wait in their gas lines. It's like the oil embargo, all over again.

[ July 12, 2004, 17:59: Message edited by: Sheap ]

LintMan July 12th, 2004 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Thats not a bug. But if you are going to build a list of "shocking foods" then you would want to include prairie oysters, kim chee, blood pudding, haggis, tripe, birds nest soup, thousand year eggs, catfish, sushi, caviar, rancid yak milk, monkey brains, fruitcake, poi, chewing gum, baalut, vegemite, okra, steak tartare

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Just curious: where/why are chewing gum, okra, and fruitcake considered shocking?

LintMan July 12th, 2004 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Sheap:
Finally since the self-service checkout is restricted in the number of items you can bring through, and many people are reluctant to use them, and because the line leads to four checkouts instead of one, the lines are much shorter and move faster. Which is important to me, not because my time is exceptionally valuable, but because I really, really hate waiting in line.

On the other hand, I do agree with Arryn that self-serve gasoline is an absolute necessity of life. I am simply glad that New Jersey is a small state that I don't live in. There are many reasons for this, but among them is that when I have to drive through it, I can fill up beforehand and not have to wait in their gas lines. It's like the oil embargo, all over again.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The self-service checkouts I've seen don't have any maximum item limits. The biggest problem I've had with them is that they've been miserable to use. One had the worst, most confusing credit card interface I've ever seen, and another had a conveyor belt that kept on pushing my packing boxes back at me.

As for gas lines at NJ pumps: if you're waiting on a long gas line in NJ, you're either going to the wrong stations, or your only experience is with the rest area stations on the Garden State Parkway and NJ Turnpike. The local town/city gas stations (which you'd be using if you lived there, rather than the Parkway ones) don't get like that.

Gandalf Parker July 12th, 2004 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by LintMan:
Just curious: where/why are chewing gum, okra, and fruitcake considered shocking?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Like everything that was mentioned if depends on if you (A) know what they are (B) have ever tried them and (C) not worth explaining if you live in the country where they are common, in this case the USA.

I didnt add them to the list, I got it off the net. Gum is flavored pLastic made from a petroleum waste, and a stereotype of dumb cud chewing americans. Okra is a slimey vegetable which is considered hard to even WATCH being eaten. And fruitcake is defined as "building construction material with colored gels added, rarely if ever eaten but is often passed hand to hand as gifts for years"

Kel July 12th, 2004 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Gum is flavored pLastic made from a petroleum waste, and a stereotype of dumb cud chewing americans.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cud like or not, it's good for the teeth http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

- Kel

Cainehill July 12th, 2004 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Norfleet:
Those bugs look good enough to eat, though.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Now I'm *sure* that Demosthenes was correct in thinking that you're insane. Only certifiable nut-cases, or spec-ops guys (not that there's a difference), eat bugs. Ick. Yuck. Bleh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Eh - in Korea, you could buy little paper cones full of fried bug larva (not with batter - more like sauteed). Other portions of the world, chocolate covered ants and grasshoppers; other part, deep fried worms. Down near Papua New Guinea, there's tribes for whom grubs are not just a delicacy, but a vital part of the diet, as the sole source of protein (possibly fat as well) in the diet (which otherwise is 90% palm tree based).

The Philippines, they have a dish called "Balut", which is a fertile duck egg, almost hatched, which is then buried underground to ferment.

Myself, I've tried all of these (except for the fried larva and the Balut) when offered them by friends and friendly acquaintances. The larva and the Balut, I never had a local friend offer, so I harbored a suspicion that clever chaps figured out that they could get american servicemen (deliberate gender here) to eat rotten food, and pay to do so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Not even peer pressure got me to try these things, not even falling down drunk at 20 and 25 years of age. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Also - basically, all people in the USA who don't have _very_ odd diets eat bugs. Essentially every bag of flour, every loaf of bread, has X parts per million that is ground up insects, and rat droppings. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Demosthenes July 13th, 2004 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Kel:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Gum is flavored pLastic made from a petroleum waste, and a stereotype of dumb cud chewing americans.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cud like or not, it's good for the teeth http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

- Kel
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But bad for the jaw. Most headaches are caused by jaw tension and dehydration.

HotNifeThruButr July 13th, 2004 01:12 AM

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"Dumb cud chewing Americans," that's a classic!

I've always thought the automatic door was a low point in civilization. Correct me if I'm wrong, but does opening a door really take that much effort?

Graeme Dice July 13th, 2004 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
I've always thought the automatic door was a low point in civilization. Correct me if I'm wrong, but does opening a door really take that much effort?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well it can take a bit of effort if you're carrying a few weeks worth of groceries.

Arryn July 13th, 2004 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by Demosthenes:
Most headaches are caused by jaw tension and dehydration.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Let's not forget my personal favorite (not!), allergy-induced sinus pressure. Ye gods how I hate sinus headaches. Thank same gods for the miracle of over-the-counter Claritan! (generic Version, of course)

Norfleet July 13th, 2004 05:34 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
Let's not forget my personal favorite (not!), allergy-induced sinus pressure. Ye gods how I hate sinus headaches. Thank same gods for the miracle of over-the-counter Claritan! (generic Version, of course)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">A solution I've always recommended in the past drainage by suction. As a side benefit, you also remove tons of other accumulated crud that has gathered within your head. You'd be surprised how much lighter your head feels, as well as how easily you can breathe, after you suction out your internal passages.

Zapmeister July 13th, 2004 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
As a side benefit, you also remove tons of other accumulated crud that has gathered within your head.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmmm. This explains a lot of things... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Arryn July 13th, 2004 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by Zapmeister:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Norfleet:
As a side benefit, you also remove tons of other accumulated crud that has gathered within your head.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmmm. This explains a lot of things... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You know you've been playing too much Dom 2 when you think that Illithids are a cure to real-world problems ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Norfleet July 13th, 2004 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
You know you've been playing too much Dom 2 when you think that Illithids are a cure to real-world problems ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, well, you know YOU haven't been playing ENOUGH when your AAR isn't finished! What happened to your AAR anyway?

Arryn July 13th, 2004 06:21 AM

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Yes, well, you know YOU haven't been playing ENOUGH when your AAR isn't finished! What happened to your AAR anyway?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Perhaps you missed my post where I said I wouldn't be able to devote time to it until later this summer? Or my private email to you saying much the same thing? Getting senile in your old age, Norfy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Norfleet July 13th, 2004 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
Perhaps you missed my post where I said I wouldn't be able to devote time to it until later this summer? Or my private email to you saying much the same thing? Getting senile in your old age, Norfy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I get this a lot. Of course, you do realize this means that in a few days or so, I'll forget that we had this conversation, and start bugging you about it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Arryn July 13th, 2004 06:50 AM

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Of course, you do realize this means that in a few days or so, I'll forget that we had this conversation, and start bugging you about it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Without a doubt. Then there's the aspect that you'd bug me about it regardless of how good your memory was. I suppose I should be flattered that you care enough to pester me. After all, if you didn't, you'd relegate me to that wastebin where you file away those whom you think are dead, or as good as. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Demosthenes July 13th, 2004 06:59 AM

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Great Bookend Arryn.


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