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Since we'll apparently be playing a decent-sized map, I'm in as Mictlan. That'd make Cheezeninja Ermor, unless he's changed his mind.
I'd also like something smaller than Orania, just not quite as tiny as Urgaia. Beyond that, I don't favor any particular map enough to cast a vote. Maps: (write your name besides the map you prefer; you may add new maps.) Urgaia: Esben Karan: Karacan, Daynarr, Chazar Karan dry Version: Turms, Cainehill Parganos: Chazar Arduria: Chazar any: pickles, Mark the Merciful Nations: Abysia: Pickles Arco: esben Caelum: Chazar C'tis: liga Ermor: Cheezeninja Machaka: Yellow Cactus Man: Cainehill Mictlan: Vicious Love Pangaea: wolfkinsov R'lyeh: Karacan Ulm: Daynarr Vanheim: Mark the Merciful Marignon: rabelais Pythium: Turms |
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Well im still here, and i'd still like to play. I really have no favored map either.
Maps: (write your name besides the map you prefer; you may add new maps.) Urgaia: Esben Karan: Karacan, Daynarr, Chazar Karan dry Version: Turms, Cainehill Parganos: Chazar Arduria: Chazar any: pickles, Mark the Merciful Nations: Abysia: Pickles Arco: esben Caelum: Chazar C'tis: liga Ermor: Cheezeninja Machaka: Yellow Cactus Man: Cainehill Mictlan: Vicious Love Pangaea: wolfkinsov R'lyeh: Karacan Ulm: Daynarr Vanheim: Mark the Merciful Marignon: rabelais Pythium: Turms [/QB][/quote] |
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If a few more people would actually vote for a map, we might get started sooner.... Not that it necessarily matters for a slow slow game, but still.
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No preference on map for me.
I think 6+ provs per nation would be nice, to keep things from going thermonuclear (with attendant fallout http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif ) too early,... but I won't really mind if I start between the jotuns and the iron freaks. Pity there is no "observer" functionality in Dom 2.. it would be nice to be able to watch with unnaturally good info, once eliminated. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Rabe |
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Allllllrrriiighhty then!
I have change the game to the Karan map, since that one got the most votes. I have no idea how big that map is, but I will learn, I suppose. Please check the game options and write here if you want anything changed. (I havn't touched them since creating the game). Otherwise, I suggest we start whenever all pretenders have been uploaded. |
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Preferences:
- Personally I would like a big hall of fame...after all we're out for fame, aint we? - Maybe 2-4 starting provinces to get it going quickly and to prevent anyone falling out immediately due to dramatic bad luck. I've no idea about those VP, they function like temples, dont they? This might be quite interesting... |
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I'll second HoF to 15 but I'm against getting more then 1 province in the start.
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I can see where this is headed already. Lets make another vote. Feel free to add additional items. Items with only one vote total will be ignored, as will draws.
Large Hall of Fame: for: Chazar, Daynarr against: More than 1 starting provinces: For: Chazar Against: Daynarr |
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Based on a non-statistically significant number of SP games, I'd suggest that four starting provinces is more luck-prone than one. There are some sites that can realy boost your opening play if you get them free on turn 1 IMO. Mark |
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I'm for HoF 15... (it should be default, unless pretenders are declared ineligible) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
...but think one starting prov is best. with more people just have less time to effect their chosen strategy before the sloppy slapdown begins. Am I wrong here? I so rarely play with more than one starting prov, I don't have any real data for the assertion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Rabe |
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Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
" I can see where this is headed already. Lets make another vote. Feel free to add additional items. Items with only one vote total will be ignored, as will draws." Large Hall of Fame: for: Chazar, Daynarr, Mark, Rabelais Pickles against: More than 1 starting provinces: For: Chazar Against: Daynarr, Mark, Rabelais, Pickles |
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Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen: " I can see where this is headed already. Lets make another vote. Feel free to add additional items. Items with only one vote total will be ignored, as will draws." Large Hall of Fame: for: Chazar, Daynarr, Mark, Rabelais, Pickles, Cainehill against: More than 1 starting provinces: For: Chazar Against: Daynarr, Mark, Rabelais, Pickles, Cainehill Blood and bone, I see where this is going - next we vote on common/rare random events, and rich world or not. Then graphs (*), and then the name of the game. Then someone suggests indies 9 and difficult research and we have a vote. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I thought the person proposing the game (Karacan) had already suggested the settings. (*) - By the time we get started, a new patch may have come out that allows the graphs to be turned on/off via the command line. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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id like to join this game... if you can handle another player
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I don't know what's about the three people wanting to join from the beginning... if they still want a position, I am afraid we're completely sold out.
I think we can settle for large HoF and one starting provinces, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Let's start on wednesday. Any votes against that? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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k thanks esben... so this is where it stands? assuming you dont mind a second water nation...
Maps: (write your name besides the map you prefer; you may add new maps.) Urgaia: Esben Karan: Karacan, Daynarr, Chazar, Tauren Karan dry Version: Turms, Cainehill Parganos: Chazar Arduria: Chazar any: pickles, Mark the Merciful Nations: Abysia: Pickles Arco: esben Atlantis: Tauren Caelum: Chazar C'tis: liga Ermor: Cheezeninja Machaka: Yellow Cactus Man: Cainehill Mictlan: Vicious Love Pangaea: wolfkinsov R'lyeh: Karacan Ulm: Daynarr Vanheim: Mark the Merciful Marignon: rabelais Pythium: Turms [ July 25, 2004, 20:42: Message edited by: The_Tauren13 ] |
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I certainly don't mind another water nation.
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Anything left? I'd be interested in playing whatever is left.
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I'm interested too if anything is left. Closer examination shows that Jotunheim and Tien Chi are left and KroolDeath has claimed one of those. If that's correct, something should be left for me after he chooses. And I won't need to think about what to pick http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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And to think - we'll be playing on Urgaea! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Well, I'm going to assert my divinity and upload a Jotun Pretender unless someone complains. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
96h isn't bad at all to me, having played PBM for many years with a 2 week turnaround! We're still playing Urgaea, eh? Wow! Krool |
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Well, I did it. I took Growth-1. I know I'm not going to need the supply bonus, and I know I could've just put those 40 points into Luck, but I just can't bear to doom my people to certain death several thousand rounds after the game ends.
Damn my knee-jerk gameplay! Update: By the way, I thought we were on Karan? [ July 26, 2004, 03:21: Message edited by: Vicious Love ] |
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/edit: full nations in Karan will be bloody enough for my taste. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [ July 26, 2004, 03:53: Message edited by: Karacan ] |
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*cough* I forgot to make a password when i created my pretender. I'm Ermor and still anonymous at the moment, so could you kick the anonymous ones please, so i can upload again?
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With all 17 nations Karan is going to be extremely tight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. If we are using karan, are we using the wet or dry Version? Rabe |
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- Whats the difference? I havent seen the dry Version of Karan yet?
- Umh, I've uploaded my Pretender already, but maybe I want to change my mind again. I assumed that I can always upload another pretender until the game is started, but according Cheezeninja's post this isnt so? So what do I have to do and whom to ask in case I do want to change my pretender? |
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I'm kicking Anonymous players now as requested. It seems to be Ermor and Mictlan I'm kicking... 17 nations? That's impressive. I think somebody should consider starting another slowpace game.... |
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The dry Version removes the linkage between the isolated lakes, making (in some people's opinions) a more balanced map. If we aren't explicitly using Karan-Dry, then we're using regular Karan. |
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if ermor or mictlan ends up being a no-show, i'd be happy to take either (w/ pref for mictlan out of the two). I've never played either and would like to try them out. a slow game is ok, but i especially like the appeal of being knocked out reasonably fast http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
edit: ahh, i see mictlan has shown. if any nations are free, i can respond fairly quickly and upload. [ July 26, 2004, 14:59: Message edited by: archaeolept ] |
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I didn't specify it but I'm also for Karan dry Version.
It seems that I've missed a chance to delete my no-password pretender. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Could you pleeeeeease kick anonymous players again. Please, please, please. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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Someone can step into my Machaka slot. This game is too crowded for my taste.
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I will change the map the Karan_dry if somebody will upload that map http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
With YellowCactus out, and crosschecked with the info from the server, we're currently standing here, as far as I can determine: Maps: (only the two runner-ups) Karan: Karacan, Chazar, Tauren Karan dry Version: Daynarr, Turms, Cainehill Nations: Abysia: Pickles (not uploaded) Arco: esben (uploaded) Atlantis: Tauren (uploaded) Caelum: Chazar (uploaded) C'tis: liga (uploaded) Ermor: Cheezeninja (not uploaded) Jotunheim: KroolDeath (uploaded) Man: Cainehill (not uploaded) Mictlan: Vicious Love (uploaded) Pangaea: wolfkinsov (not uploaded) R'lyeh: Karacan (uploaded) Ulm: Daynarr (uploaded but anonymous) Vanheim: Mark the Merciful (not uploaded) Marignon: rabelais (not uploaded) Pythium: Turms (not uploaded) ---------------------------------- Machaka: free!!! Tien Chi: Free!! Uploaded:7 Uploaded by anonymous: 1 Not uploaded: 7 Free: 2 |
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Everybody, please check my post below, too! Thanks.
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This was implemented as people apparently overwrote pretender positions --- hopefully by accident or unknowingly. You can --- and should! --- check if the pretender you have uploaded is the correct one using the md5 sum. In linux, the utility is name md5sum --- if you are using another OS just post it and some other guy can tell you how to do it. Once you have claimed the pretender as you (Checking the That's me! box) the pretender is locked and can only be unlocked by you. |
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Hi I think I have uploaded to Ulm (in error ) & Abysia, with a pretender that seems different somehow - possibly missng a password so please kick those and accept my apologies. I will upload a proper Abysia tommorrow.
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Oki, uploaded my pretender (with password this time). I'm ready to rumble. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
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I prefer Karan to Karan dry, but only because I don't have to go searching for Karan_dry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif If someone points me to it, I am all for it.
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I have staked Tien Chi (at least I hope so) and I will submit pretender in a few hours (just got home and I need to see how to play Tien Chi)
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Individual players don't need to find the Karan Dry, because as long as the host uses the modified, dry, .map file, that controls the game for everyone - they can just use the regular karan files. Those who _do_ want the dry Version for their own games, it's found on Illwinter's site, under maps, right with the regular Karan download. The karan2.dry is simply the .map file, and thus quite small. (Editted for quotes) [ July 26, 2004, 22:44: Message edited by: Cainehill ] |
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Update : I believe the karan_dry files have successfully been uploaded. As I mentioned, I just renamed the karan tga file, figuring that a couple megs of redundant / duplicate file wasn't a big deal with todays computers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [ July 26, 2004, 23:04: Message edited by: Cainehill ] |
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ok i'll see what i can do w/ the giant spiders
i'll upload when i get home, sometime this evening (in a few hours) |
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Anonymous? I seem to be missing something...
And, yeah, the concept of a really slow game does seem to have dizzying appeal at the moment. The question is how many people still approve of it after this little test run of ours is through, around September of next year. Update: My mistake, turns out my browser just wonked out on me the first time I used the "confess" feature. My bad. Updated update: Of course, in the process of realizing that that was my only oversight, I created a new pretender, uploaded him, then confirmed I was him. Naturally, I forgot to set a password for this latter god. It's now five recreations of the exact same god(To get titles nearly as kickass as the ones I initially got) later, and all is well in the House of Me. Yet another update: Wow. Full house. It's becoming less and less likely that I'll survive the early-game expansion. [ July 26, 2004, 12:39: Message edited by: Vicious Love ] |
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Still working on my pretender, I'll have it up by sometime Wednesday (the proposed start); if it looks like almost everyone else has uploaded I'll find the time to finish up earlier.
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Does 'dry' mean no water? I seem to recall there are all races in this game, including the two water ones.
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No, "dry" Karan is the Version of Karan where the inland lakes are not considered neighbors of the sea provinces that the rivers connect them to.
This has slight ramifications on the spread of dominion for a land nation across water, since the water-shortcut, while not accessible to land units, still affects spread of dominion. It also has an effect on inland water access for water nations. The underlying issue that there is not enough water for both water nations remains unaddressed in both the original and "Dry" Versions of Karan. |
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In a situation with all 17 nations, either Version has something of an advantage for the water nations - one of them is probably going to be one of the nations surviving well into the mid-to-late game, and one will die. That's a 50% chance, better than most of the nations will have. Of course, Vegas has odds on whether it will be Atlantis or R'lyeh still standing, and those odds aren't 50/50. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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142 land provinces, for 15 land nations - 9.46666... each. And this is ignoring that both Atlantis and R'lyen can easily take land provinces, while most land setups have difficulty going into the water. |
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