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Cainehill July 25th, 2004 12:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by archaeolept:
actually, i didn't feel much need to join in as there was such a rush of people who wanted to play. As well, norfleet had said that he wanted to play, and i'd still rather avoid games w/ him for the time being. Not that I wanted to go w/ a "no norfleets" house rule either.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah - much as I'd _love_ to create a "No Cohen", etc, game, I don't think it's appropriate to set up house rules banning particular players on Esben's server.

Very very tempting, but inappropriate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Thufir July 25th, 2004 02:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by archaeolept:
anyways, the game seems to have started a bit slow. hopefully tomorrow you guys can pick up the pace a bit, and get more of the easy early part of the game out of the way.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">KroolDeath warned us he'd be out today, hopefully we will get in a number of turns tomorrow.


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I intend to!

Ozymandias July 25th, 2004 11:20 PM
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Turn 4 is up.

KroolDeath July 26th, 2004 01:46 AM
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Thanks for being patient, guys. I was out of town camping and had no access on Saturday.

Krool

Ozymandias July 26th, 2004 02:42 AM
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Did you stale any turns?

KroolDeath July 26th, 2004 03:42 AM
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One, but I was all the richer because of it... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ozymandias July 26th, 2004 04:44 AM
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Who is Abysia?

archaeolept July 26th, 2004 04:58 AM
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you can see who's who at the mosehansen page:
https://www.mosehansen.dk/cgi-bin/do...game=belle_air

its odd_enuf

Ozymandias July 27th, 2004 07:33 PM
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I was wondering if there are ways to turn off some of the extra information that the game provides ie the score graphs and the crowns for vp locations. I have been examining these sources of intel closely, but think a game without them might be nice. Is there a switch to turn off score graphs? Is the painting of all the capitols unavoidable if they are used for vp?

archaeolept July 27th, 2004 07:53 PM
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hmm i thought capitals weren't supposed to be set for VP in this game?? in fact, checking the settings, there shouldn't be any capital VP.

as to score graphs, you can turn them off, but not w/ command-line switches, so not on the mosehansen server.

Thufir July 27th, 2004 07:57 PM
Re: MP Game - Belle Air - now underway
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Ozymandias:
I was wondering if there are ways to turn off some of the extra information that the game provides ie the score graphs and the crowns for vp locations. I have been examining these sources of intel closely, but think a game without them might be nice. Is there a switch to turn off score graphs? Is the painting of all the capitols unavoidable if they are used for vp?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">On game creation, there's an option for turning off the graphs. What do you mean by "painting of capitols"?

Ozymandias July 27th, 2004 08:02 PM
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Each capitol in our game is appearently worth one vp, holding five grants apotheosis. I have been presuming that the crowns on the map were in fact all of our various capitols. The marking with crowns is what I was refering to.

Ozymandias July 27th, 2004 08:07 PM
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Are you sure about that archaeolept? I got the impression we were using vp from your post on July 23:

Game On!

there are 10 players, as opposed to the original conception of 8. As such, the victory conditions are to be the first to hold 4 capitals of vanquished pretenders (while still having your own).

[ August 01, 2004, 20:38: Message edited by: Ozymandias ]

Ozymandias July 27th, 2004 08:11 PM
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Wow I must look at the preview post button before I post next time. That looks terrible. How do you edit Posts, I have seen evidence of editing on several diffrent threads.

Oh well, off to labor. Hopefully Vigabrand will have submited his turn during my shift.

edit: I have now learned to edit.

[ August 01, 2004, 20:39: Message edited by: Ozymandias ]

Yossar July 28th, 2004 07:32 AM
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Victory Points are just put randomly on the map and in this game don't actually mean anything.

The_Tauren13 July 28th, 2004 03:30 PM
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victory points actually spread dominion... so they arent completely meaningless

Yossar July 29th, 2004 03:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by The_Tauren13:
victory points actually spread dominion... so they arent completely meaningless
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you sure? I've never heard that before.

archaeolept July 29th, 2004 03:49 AM
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yeah, they don't do much, but are something like 5pts of dom spread per VP. click on one of your temples when you have a VP crown.

Thufir July 30th, 2004 07:10 PM
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I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow, and while I'm planning on submitting my turns (I've called ahead at an Internet cafe), I just wanted to give everyone a heads up, in case something goes wrong. I should check in tomorrow night 7pm (GMT-10), and worst case I'm sure I'll be able to post here, and let you all know if I have difficulty submitting turns. I plan to submit turns once per day, in the evening, if anything goes awry, or if thats too slow for anyone, I have no problems with passing on the position or setting it to AI.

- Thufir

KroolDeath July 30th, 2004 07:43 PM
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No problems here, thats the beauty of 25h quickhost. And things like this are going to happen unless there's someone who never leaves their house!

Heck, I staled Turn 2...And I'm going camping in a couple of weeks and I'm trying to get a bud to buy this game so I don't stale another turn (he can take it for me). Of course, if I could convince our gracious host to go to 72h that weekend. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Krool

[ July 30, 2004, 18:43: Message edited by: KroolDeath ]

Ozymandias August 1st, 2004 07:35 PM
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Frosted Flake are you okay? It seemed like you staled Last turn, and you have six hours to connect before you stale this one.

On a diffrent topic, persuant to my bug report in the bug thread, Vigabrand did you just capture province 101? Yossar did you capture province 14 or 52 at aproximately turn 9? djtool is your capitol province 103 or 118? Has anyone else captured a vp?

Sorry if this is revealing information that I shouldn't have, I just want to confirm that I have discovered a buggy information channel. Particularly I appolgize to djtool if my suspicions are correct.

[ August 01, 2004, 22:46: Message edited by: Ozymandias ]

Ozymandias August 2nd, 2004 12:39 AM
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T minus twenty minutes until turn sixteen. Looks like frosted flake staled again. I hope you are okay ff. Nobody has said anything about the buggy score graph, I'm quite interested in that.

[ August 02, 2004, 00:41: Message edited by: Ozymandias ]

KroolDeath August 2nd, 2004 02:47 AM
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Ozy, what are you seeing? You've got my curiousity.

Krool

archaeolept August 2nd, 2004 03:31 AM
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i believe the master password should allow me to go in and set him to AI. If he hasn't shown up w/in the next day that's what I'll do.

Ozymandias August 2nd, 2004 03:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by KroolDeath:
Ozy, what are you seeing? You've got my curiousity.

Krool
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">To reproduce the bug start an sp game with vp as a winning condition. Play whatever game you created. Advance to turn two, press f2, switch to the vp graph, press escape, press e, end turn, play game, play belle_air, press f2. You should see a graph showing that Ulm captured a vp on turn fifteen, Atlantis captured one on turn nine or ten (his second conquest in any case), and that C'tis has had one since the beginning of the game. Nobody else has any. You're in hard_slog, that's the game I was looking at... it's vp graph didn't reveal anything interesting beyond R'lyeh being in province 132, and Jotunheim being in province 115.

[ August 02, 2004, 05:26: Message edited by: Ozymandias ]

Ozymandias August 2nd, 2004 06:07 AM
Re: MP Game - Belle Air - now underway
 
Quote:
Originally posted by archaeolept:
i believe the master password should allow me to go in and set him to AI. If he hasn't shown up w/in the next day that's what I'll do.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Frosted flake put up a turn just a short time after he staled, so no need to AIify him.

Yossar August 2nd, 2004 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ozymandias:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by KroolDeath:
Ozy, what are you seeing? You've got my curiousity.

Krool
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">To reproduce the bug start an sp game with vp as a winning condition. Play whatever game you created. Advance to turn two, press f2, switch to the vp graph, press escape, press e, end turn, play game, play belle_air, press f2. You should see a graph showing that Ulm captured a vp on turn fifteen, Atlantis captured one on turn nine or ten (his second conquest in any case), and that C'tis has had one since the beginning of the game. Nobody else has any. You're in hard_slog, that's the game I was looking at... it's vp graph didn't reveal anything interesting beyond R'lyeh being in province 132, and Jotunheim being in province 115. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wow, I'm pretty sure that's correct and it's a really interesting bug.

Ozymandias August 2nd, 2004 07:56 AM
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That's why I was hoping for some confirmation. Seems like it's a bug.

Ozymandias August 3rd, 2004 05:47 AM
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Thufir just connected so we ought to see turn eighteen presently.

Norfleet August 3rd, 2004 06:33 AM
Re: MP Game - Belle Air - now underway
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Ozymandias:
To reproduce the bug start an sp game with vp as a winning condition. Play whatever game you created. Advance to turn two, press f2, switch to the vp graph, press escape, press e, end turn, play game, play belle_air, press f2. You should see a graph showing that Ulm captured a vp on turn fifteen, Atlantis captured one on turn nine or ten (his second conquest in any case), and that C'tis has had one since the beginning of the game. Nobody else has any. You're in hard_slog, that's the game I was looking at... it's vp graph didn't reveal anything interesting beyond R'lyeh being in province 132, and Jotunheim being in province 115.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Uhm...Chief? Belle_Air and hard_slog are Mosehansen games. They have score graphs enabled by default. It's perfectly NORMAL to see a VP graph on Mosehansen. I don't see anything unusual here.

Yossar August 3rd, 2004 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Norfleet:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Ozymandias:
To reproduce the bug start an sp game with vp as a winning condition. Play whatever game you created. Advance to turn two, press f2, switch to the vp graph, press escape, press e, end turn, play game, play belle_air, press f2. You should see a graph showing that Ulm captured a vp on turn fifteen, Atlantis captured one on turn nine or ten (his second conquest in any case), and that C'tis has had one since the beginning of the game. Nobody else has any. You're in hard_slog, that's the game I was looking at... it's vp graph didn't reveal anything interesting beyond R'lyeh being in province 132, and Jotunheim being in province 115.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Uhm...Chief? Belle_Air and hard_slog are Mosehansen games. They have score graphs enabled by default. It's perfectly NORMAL to see a VP graph on Mosehansen. I don't see anything unusual here. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If VP victory conditions aren't enabled, as they aren't in this game, then VPs don't appear on the score graph. So it isn't perfectly NORMAL.

Cainehill August 3rd, 2004 02:51 PM
Re: MP Game - Belle Air - now underway
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Yossar:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Norfleet:
Uhm...Chief? Belle_Air and hard_slog are Mosehansen games. They have score graphs enabled by default. It's perfectly NORMAL to see a VP graph on Mosehansen. I don't see anything unusual here.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If VP victory conditions aren't enabled, as they aren't in this game, then VPs don't appear on the score graph. So it isn't perfectly NORMAL. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ah - the bug isn't the score graphs, the bug is the VPs showing up in the score graphs for a game without victory points enabled.

KroolDeath August 4th, 2004 04:37 PM
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Early warning...

I will probably stale this Saturday again unless one of two things:

1) Our gracious host will change this to 72h for this weekend (which wouldn't be a bad overall thing to do for every weekend. Can you set it that way?).

2) I can find someone to take that single turn.

If no response to )1 and I'll shoot for 2).

Hate to miss anything at this point, its starting to shape in what I think may be a great game (from my newbie point of view).

Fun so far guys!

Krool

Ozymandias August 6th, 2004 05:25 AM
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Turn 23 is up.

archaeolept August 6th, 2004 04:19 PM
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I can do your turn for you this weekend if you want Krooldeath. email me @hotmail.com if you wish me to, and tell me what you'ld like me to do.

edit: oh darn krooldeath, I remembered that you are also in hard_slog. I certainly can't do your move for you there http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ August 06, 2004, 15:38: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

KroolDeath August 8th, 2004 06:13 PM
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My apologies once again. I had some one lined up to take my turn and then I had problems at work which inhibited me from getting the info to the individual.

Anyway, I've taken my turn (as you guys are aware I'm sure).

Krool

Yossar August 9th, 2004 05:09 PM
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Well, I'm going out of town for a week. I posted a new thread looking for a sub, but nobody's replied yet. Not sure what I'll do if nobody volunteers by tomorrow.

archaeolept August 9th, 2004 05:13 PM
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ehh yossar, if you don't find someone i'll try to sub for the week, though its possible i might stale one day this weekend.

archaeolept@hotmail.com

Ozymandias August 10th, 2004 08:13 PM
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Turn thirty is up. The wicked C'tisians attacked me. I shall punish them for this.

Yossar September 18th, 2004 05:29 PM
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Well, I control the capitols of the dead nations Arco, Machaka, Tien Chi, and Abysia. I believe that makes me the winner. Too bad Ermor kept staling at the end, kind of killing the drama of our final showdown. Good game everyone.

archaeolept September 18th, 2004 06:25 PM
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yes. yossar is the winnar!

KroolDeath September 18th, 2004 10:01 PM
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Yes, good game. Yossar, nice job.

Interesting experience for my first MP. I thoroughly enjoyed it and learned alot, both from mistakes and otherwise.I think I did fairly well, but can see where I did many things wrong. I may write a synopsis later on on my experience, perhaps it will be useful for newbs(or maybe not).

Krool

KroolDeath September 19th, 2004 12:07 PM
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arch,

You going to shut this game down, I still see it active, not sure if I'm supposed to be taking a turn or not since we have a declared winner.

Krool

archaeolept September 19th, 2004 05:03 PM
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oh ok

yah will do

sorry

Congrats to all and to all a good night!

KroolDeath September 19th, 2004 05:09 PM
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Congrats once again Yossar. See you on the battlefield again I'm sure.

Krool

Yossar September 19th, 2004 05:59 PM
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Thanks, it was a fun game even if I was a bit less than completely honest diplomatically. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


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