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douglas September 27th, 2004 05:06 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
I believe the NO AI mod does exactly the same thing as the "AI makes no changes to empire during simultaneous game" empire option. The only reason the mod exists is that it was created before that option was added in a patch.

Sivran September 27th, 2004 06:11 PM

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What about intel? Will intel projects be on for this game? It has bearing on how I setup my emp http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Arakiel September 27th, 2004 06:23 PM

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i dont see why not, intel can be fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mikeyman September 28th, 2004 12:53 PM

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I may join, but my computer power supply has broekn down and I need to replace it...I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to get a new one.

Arakiel September 28th, 2004 02:31 PM

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Well we have most folks who professed an interest. Still waiting to hear from brianeyci & Rasorow ... unless one of you is "starwood".

Hopefully we can get started soon or I might have to start a new AI game LOL.

Rasorow September 28th, 2004 02:43 PM

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I wont be able to join until tomorrow... at work and class Last night. Wont be able to get on tonight due to unusual circumstances (personal).

also since its 24 hrs I will miss turns every monday....

Rasorow

Salient September 28th, 2004 02:44 PM

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Glad to hear we'll be starting soon!

I'm laying my third AI game now and for the first time I'm still alive and kicking in third place lol http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif !!

The Phong are my buddies, the Amon-krie are nice friends and I'm kicking Kilrathi butt!
The Terrans,Noraks and Mokakah are still nowhere to be seen.
I'm getting very addicted right now, too bad my girl is chasing me off to clean the bathroom, ah don't we all love women?!

brianeyci September 29th, 2004 12:22 AM

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I'm debating whether or not to have a thematically inclined race, or to have a max/minned ultra race. I'll join the game now, and we'll see how it goes =D

Brian

Liudas September 29th, 2004 04:59 AM

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Hmm, i could join the game, but i don`t want to make another slaughterhouse like in newbies102 because of me.

Arakiel September 29th, 2004 04:02 PM

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In the interest of getting this game going i'm considering laying down a drop dead date for empire uploading of saturday...i.e join the game and get your empires in by saturday or you get kicked and the game starts...unless peeps think thats too draconian in which case I will just shush and play some more against the AI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Quote:

Liudas said:
Hmm, i could join the game, but i don`t want to make another slaughterhouse like in newbies102 because of me.

err...well if you arent an SE newbie i'd ask you stayed away. You'll notice on my first post that the whole pupose of this PBW game is for newbies to get into it without getting slaughtered. Starting a newbie game and getting hardcore players to come in and kill them sort of defeats the purpose...

Liudas September 29th, 2004 04:27 PM

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Well, you understanded me wrong, i am not a hardcore player, who joins newbies games and destroys empires one after other. It`s just my playing style. I just don`t like all those lets all get along games.
And about my playing level, sivran renegade13 and mikieman should tell about that. I am in one game with them. If you guys think that i am too expierenced for this game i will not join of course. I will not get any plesure from game if other players won`t have it too. (Executer in newbies102).

Arakiel September 29th, 2004 04:38 PM

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Ahh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I fully agree the sickly sweet "Don't hurt me" games aren't what I was hoping for either so in that case we'd love to have you along!

I'm probably gonna get owned in the early stages of this game but what the heck, it will be a learning experience http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

brianeyci September 29th, 2004 05:03 PM

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Quote:

Arakiel said:err...well if you arent an SE newbie i'd ask you stayed away. You'll notice on my first post that the whole pupose of this PBW game is for newbies to get into it without getting slaughtered. Starting a newbie game and getting hardcore players to come in and kill them sort of defeats the purpose...

Well. I am a newbie but I don't know whether I'm as bad enough lol. I created a great thematic race.

Watch out for Love Incorporated lol.

Brian

boran_blok September 29th, 2004 05:22 PM

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Is there still space to join ? and if so ehm, how does this entire PBW thing work ? I've played SE4 (and some mods) quite frequently already, but i'm a total newbie to the multiplayer aspect, so if there's still space for a player, let me know, Thanks.

Boran.

Arakiel September 29th, 2004 05:28 PM

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"There's always room for one more" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

The more the merrier. First you need to check out the site:
http://seiv.pbw.cc/text/index.jsp

register yourself and read up on the docs, it *seems* pretty straight forward but then again I haven't done this either so I could be smoking wacky weed.

All -
I'm beginning to wonder if going into a large sized map is a better idea after all, we've got alot more interested parties then it first seemed. Current count is 7 with 2 "maybies". With a mid sized map it could get crowded fast..then again that could make things more interesting too. *Shrug*

...Thoughts?

boran_blok September 29th, 2004 05:46 PM

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Got myself registred and i'm reading the FAQ's atm

when do you have the game start scheduled ?

and when would you have the turns process (Time + timezone so that I can see what time it would be in my timezone)

Thanks.

We are playing Version 1.91 eh ? because the faqs are still in 1.7x era..

I'll have to reinstall SE4 tho, it has been modified a bit http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

boran_blok September 29th, 2004 05:58 PM

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I applied to join the game, I'm going to hunt for a nice shipset now.

starwood September 29th, 2004 06:36 PM

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Hey,

I just discovered that this thread was here !
I just started PBW a month ago, and this sounds like a fun game. I will upload my empire asap.

I don't really have any experience playing against people, just against the computer a few times.

-Will

narf poit chez BOOM September 29th, 2004 06:39 PM

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No, no. You can't be Will. We already have a Will.

starwood September 29th, 2004 06:45 PM

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I "will" be starwood !

Gotta go to real world now ( logging off )

Liudas September 29th, 2004 07:20 PM

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So i am still waiting for my gamemates from newbies102 rate me. Little about me: i have just fineshed my first game, but it was team game, Lithuanian team against Finnsish team. I have ~3 games now and most of them them is team based,but i want to finish any of them on my own, without help of my teammates (more expierenced). Like i said, i have some theoretitac expierence, but less playing expierence. So if you are lack of players invite me. I hope i will not ruine the game.

Rasorow September 29th, 2004 08:42 PM

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I am sorry but I need to officially withdraw my interest. I cannot do 24 hour turns. I will miss 2-4 turns a week and that just ruins it. I have to much else going on with DnD, school, work, and social commitments. Wish I could play though.

Rasorow

Liudas September 29th, 2004 08:53 PM

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i can make tuns, thateer you want, if tyou dont mid, one drunkard like as was callledddddd

Arakiel September 29th, 2004 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Liudas said:
So i am still waiting for my gamemates from newbies102 rate me. Little about me: i have just fineshed my first game, but it was team game, Lithuanian team against Finnsish team. I have ~3 games now and most of them them is team based,but i want to finish any of them on my own, without help of my teammates (more expierenced). Like i said, i have some theoretitac expierence, but less playing expierence. So if you are lack of players invite me. I hope i will not ruine the game.

just click join, i'll hit accept next time im on site

Arakiel September 29th, 2004 09:38 PM

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Quote:

Rasorow said:
I am sorry but I need to officially withdraw my interest. I cannot do 24 hour turns. I will miss 2-4 turns a week and that just ruins it. I have to much else going on with DnD, school, work, and social commitments. Wish I could play though.

Rasorow

Sorry Rasorow!

Arakiel September 29th, 2004 09:38 PM

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Quote:

Liudas said:
i can make tuns, thateer you want, if tyou dont mid, one drunkard like as was callledddddd

Umm...K....LOL

Arakiel September 29th, 2004 09:41 PM

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Quote:

boran_blok said:
Got myself registred and i'm reading the FAQ's atm

when do you have the game start scheduled ?

and when would you have the turns process (Time + timezone so that I can see what time it would be in my timezone)

Thanks.

We are playing Version 1.91 eh ? because the faqs are still in 1.7x era..

I'll have to reinstall SE4 tho, it has been modified a bit http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Hoping fot this weekend for startup.
Timed turns every 24hrs, so will depend on game start time from what i gather.

Renegade 13 September 29th, 2004 10:03 PM

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Well Liudas, from what I've seen in the Newbies 102 game, you should make a good opponent. Conscientious at uploading turns, and a worthy ally. Not too experienced, but enough to be stronger than me!

Salient September 30th, 2004 08:25 AM

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A larger galaxy would be welcome now,we're up to 10 players now.

I do hope there will be room for some diplomacy and empire building and that we don't start shooting right away, that's certainly not my plan. Infact that way it would be a very short game for me I fear.

Oh, and it's god to see a fellow country man here boran_blok !!
Wanna ally right away? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Liudas September 30th, 2004 08:47 AM

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Hmm, i think i am too late, the game is already full. Well maybe next time.

boran_blok September 30th, 2004 12:13 PM

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Maybe we should do a poll then what timezones all players have

I have placed a message on the game forum (the one on the PBW site specifically of the game) concerning this.

On a sidenote, can anyone reccomend a good empire style ? it needs to be darkish-blue.

thanks.

Glyn September 30th, 2004 12:27 PM

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When the start date for this game?
I can't make game turn postings between Oct 3-8 due to RL.
It will hurt to miss 5 turns in the beginning, but I don't want to delay the game start. So, it may be best if I withdraw for now.

boran_blok September 30th, 2004 01:12 PM

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Found Myself a shipset and I will have tinkered and tweaked my empire by tonight, or tomorrow night at most.

Arakiel September 30th, 2004 01:15 PM

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Glyn- I was hoping for this weekend to start the game. as long as you fill up your queue beforehand you should be good for a few days at least, just make sure your research and other queues have enough work to Last 5 turns.

boron_blok - i'm not quite sure what the issue is. it's a 24 hour timer, so as long as you upload your turn *sometime* within the 24hr period you'll be fine. timezone shouldn't matter since it's a 24 hour clock. please elaborate if i'm not understanding your issue. thanks!

starwood September 30th, 2004 03:29 PM

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I uploaded my empire.

I read the article on Min Maxing...
I had no idea so many of those traits were not so important.
Anyway, I had fun tweaking them, it reminded me what I used to do in Dungeons and Dragons.

From what I read from the people here, I think this is going to be a fun game !

starwood September 30th, 2004 03:34 PM

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Question:

Does max units allowed mean only units actually in space and not the planets ?

I was thinking, people with large empires would find it really hard to defend with only 300 ships.

But on the other hand, only having 300 ships would make a long, fun game, because people would find it hard to maintain a large empire, so eveyone would be expanding and shrinking alot ?

Fyron September 30th, 2004 03:51 PM

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Quote:

starwood said:
Does max units allowed mean only units actually in space and not the planets ?

Yes. It is max units in space allowed.

boran_blok September 30th, 2004 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Arakiel said:
[..]
boron_blok - i'm not quite sure what the issue is. it's a 24 hour timer, so as long as you upload your turn *sometime* within the 24hr period you'll be fine. timezone shouldn't matter since it's a 24 hour clock. please elaborate if i'm not understanding your issue. thanks!

1: it's boran http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

2: this will be a bit harder to explain than my name but i'll try.

if the turn generation is at 21 hrs my time for instance, then i'd have sometimes only 1 hr to make my turn before it's got to be in, or after that time only 2 hrs (okay that should suffice but I do not know how long my empires will get and what other homework i'd have)

but if the turn generation is in the middle of the night somewhere then i'd always have the entire evening without having to watch a clock, just submit when off to bed, hence 00hrs till 18hrs my time (the entire time i'm asleep and/or at school) the turn processing firs best for me.

hope you understand the reasoning behind this.

Fyron September 30th, 2004 04:55 PM

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Just make the game be 30 hours. It will be close enough to 24 hour rate that it will not be noticeable (especially if you do not have people submitted at the eleventh hour every turn...), and will give leeway for people in very different time zones with limited playing times... I know I have been in games where I was the Last to submit a turn simply because the turn processed in the middle of the night and everyone else in the game was in Europe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

boran_blok September 30th, 2004 05:35 PM

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Well, 24 wouldbe okay, it gives some regularity imho I mean you know every day when the turn is going to process.

Fyron September 30th, 2004 05:38 PM

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The turn will process as soon as the Last player uploads his/her turn file for that turn. Unless timed only turns are selected (which only serves to slow down a game), there will be no regularity to the processing of turns. 24 hours is just the maximum limit, when PBW will force execution regardless of whether all players have uploaded their turn files or not. If everyone uploads their files in 1 hour, PBW will process the turn right then and there.

Salient September 30th, 2004 11:16 PM

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The way you explain it Mr. Fyron turn processing sounds logical and should fit most people on a 24h basis.

Is the next step 48h or can one choose 36h or 40h as well?

Fyron October 1st, 2004 01:36 AM

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You can choose 25 hours if you want. It is entered per hour.

boran_blok October 1st, 2004 02:52 AM

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atm as I see it the game is set at 24hr clock, not 24hr timeout.

so if you think it's better to have 24 hr timeout then you should contact arakiel to have him change it.

Arakiel October 1st, 2004 11:11 AM

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Contacting me is as easy as pie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

...which is an odd little saying because ive made pies and they arent easy...it's like the "taking candy from a baby", if you've ever tried it you'd know it ain't so easy...but I digress...

I can easily swap how the turns are run to run automatically. My thoughts at the time were that if someone didn't upload a turn everybody would be sitting around on their hands waiting. With the timed turns the turn runs...end of story...if your turn isn't in then at least you haven't made everyone else wait.

Let's put it to a vote. What would folks prefer, timed turns or full auto?

Arakiel October 1st, 2004 11:12 AM

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I should learn to read Fyron's Posts more carefully...either that or I need more sleep. Right nevermind the vote, auto turns it is.

Salient October 1st, 2004 11:19 AM

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I can make 24h turns, piece of cake (or pie for that matter). When and if the game goes into a micromanaging frenzy we can always switch to whatever seems appropriate.

Btw, are we playing a medium or large galaxy? 10 players seems a bit much for a medium sized map.

And what kinda pie did you make Arakiel? It didn't happen to be Space cake euh pie was it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Arakiel October 1st, 2004 11:25 AM

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I see we have everyone's empires uploaded. One Last chance to let your voice be heard about galaxy size before i upload the gam file. i'm still seriously considering making the galaxy large instead of medium since we have 10 players now. if your against this and want to keep it medium, now is the time to let your voice be heard.

I'll upload the gam file around 3:00pm EST.

Arakiel October 1st, 2004 11:27 AM

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Blueberry! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

boran_blok October 1st, 2004 12:12 PM

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hmmh, pbw site is down for me. constant 24 hr turns (so always everyday at a set time) would be best for me (it will slow down the game a bit, but since we're in different timezones it's unrealistically to think that we could get turns faster than 1 per 24 hrs.


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