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Ctis then for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

So what is the procedure now then? I am supposed to UL my pretender, or what?

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Step 1: Download the map and the mod and put them in the right place.

Step 2: Start dom2, go to "preferences", "mod preferences", and enable the mod (Test Mod)

Step 3: Design your pretender

Step 4: Connect to network game at soapyfrog.no-ip.info, port 2345. Claim your nation.

Step 5: Disconnect, and wait until the game is announced as started.

Easy-peasey! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Only Atlantis to fill and we have a full house!

Ah, Atlantis, the bastard stepchild of Dom2 nations... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Ok, my Pretender has been uploaded, hopefully it went ok http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Well, you might want to GoR enslaved creatures or very experienced heavies.

Adding GoR and Wish in again is a piece of cake. Just remove the lines quoted before from the mod. If Tartarian Gate is then nerfed, say by making it d9 and costing 20 deathgems (fairly reasonable I think, for a lvl 9 spell) I don't see why GoR needs to be removed. Making good Tartarian commanders is a costly deal under these circumstances.
Cost for wish could be upped to 150.

Straight removal of the spells seems tacky to me.

I have made a changed Version of the mod that implements this and attached to this post, in case you (Soapyfrog) want it. No need to reupload pretenders to use this.
Oh, and yes, I checked and the spells cost what I intended and so on.

ckfnpku - the noob modmeister

Edit: The server might need to be restarted though. I dunno. Maybe not if the mod is named the same as the current one (replace) and the server is just restarted. And people might want to adjust their pretenders.

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Someone else is uploaded as R'lyeh. Does it even work if I overwrite?

Sorry to be a pain, but this is a first for me.

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doesn't Atlantis have a 50% enchantment bonus site on this map?

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Yes, whoever uploads Last gets the spot.

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Yes there is a 50% enchantment bonus in the Atlantis capital

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But it's underwater so some spells can't be cast there. Not sure which ones offhand.

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most good enchantment spells that don't require extra gems can't be, the main excpetion is enliven statutes.

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Tartarian factories (even if you double the cost of summoning them) heavily slant the game towards whoever can get the chalice or put up a solid GoH first, which is kind of unfortunate. If you are unable to GoR them, on the other hand, then it is much more balanced: e.g. 1 out 5 (or something) tartarians will show up as commanders, the rest as troops, and being unable to GoR pretty well automatically balances the spell... so I am going to have to agree with Zen on this one.

Well lets run with the no-GoR, no-Wish thing and see how it works out. Honestly with the conjuration bonus sites on this particular map GoRd tartarians might be just a tad TOO good anyway.

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The major cost in running squads of Gor'ed Tartarians has not in my limited experience been the 10 death gem summoning cost (which a 50% conjuration site would reduce to 5 death gems) - it has been the 20 nature gem GoR enchantment each, the dozens of gems sunk into construction of equipment to outfit Tartarians, the initial equipment needed to boost several summoners into the 7D spell domain to start with, and the cost of holding the Chalice/Gift of Health. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Well with no GoR a commander tartarian now costs 40 or 50 death gems to summon, and comes with some beefy troops. So they are slightly more costly now, and more importantly it takes more time to summon them.

To be honest the more I think about the effects of this, the more pleased I am. It is still worth it IMHO to pursue a tartarian summoning strategy, it's just no longer the absolute be-all end-all most efficient summoning strat.

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I the event no one signs up for Atlantis before the weekend, wie'll stick an expert AI in there and kick-off. How does that sound to everyone?

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In our Last game the AI's got wiped out very fast. Since Peter said Atlantis is the balance race for Ermor on that map how about the difficult setting? The AI can not take advantage of the map like a human player can.

But either way, let's get going.

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If you are going to put in an AI, it probably needs to be on the impossible setting to have any chance of hurting a human player early before getting overrun.

Also, I will be out of town Sunday, returning Tuesday evening.

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I'd like to see this fill up. I will give up Marignon and take atlantis IF someone would like to join in and would rather do it as a land nation.

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I'll try Atlantis.

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Excellent, full house! We will start when all the pretenders are done uploading.

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Only Acro and Matchaka to upload and we can contemplate kicking off http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Only waiting for Arcos and Machaka; chop, chop, guys!

EDIT: Funny this; Soapy and I moaning almost exactly at the same time!

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Looks like everyone is ready.

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Yup everyone is ready... I am starting this puppy!

I'll put the first turn on no time-limit quickhost, so the laggards can catch up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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... I am having problems connecting ...

Am I the only one?

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It is working now and the first turn is up.

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8 are done their turn. but it was slow to hook up

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I always get a "connection failed" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../firedevil.gif

Help ! I do not want to lose my first turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif

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Hmmm, I am not sure what the problem could be? I run through the standard list: local firewall (most common issue!), correct server (soapyfrog.no-ip.info), correct port (2345)...

Anyway, I have not set a hosting time on this first turn... it is just set to quickhost, so you have essentially as long as you need (tempered by our patience, of course http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif) to resolve the issue.

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Turn uploaded.

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Ok ... worked now ... don't know what the problem was. Have not changed anything on my side.

Looks like sometime problems do just disappear http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Alright we are now set to 24h quickhost.

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Can we have a sort of mailing bot that sends us a notification when the game has hosted new turn?

I've been in a game hosted by someone of Qt3 that did that, and was pretty useful to avoid staling ^^ (since there're no "welcome page" as on Mose).

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Well I am currently running on a windows server, and I know of no such utility for windows.

What we could do, if you are amenable, is set a fixed hosting time. It would slow the game down a little bit probably, but would have the advantage that you always know when the game is going to host so it's easier to make doing your turn part of your daily routine...

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Next weekend could we have a bit longer turn-around than 24 hours? I'll be out of town from Saturday morning to Sunday, and I'll probably have to rush to work immediatly when coming home on Sunday. So about 36 hours from Saturday morning to Sunday evening.

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I will be out of town Friday-Tuesday. I will try not to stale by grabbing an internet connection when I can, but it probably will happen anyway.

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I can put it on 72-hour quickhost for the next 3 weeks, how does that sound?

Kinda sucks if it slows the game up a lot, but hopefully everyone will still make an effort to get their turns done and we will proceed at a decent pace.

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It sounds like a very very slow game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I think it will be slow during the holiday season, just like the other games I am involved in, but we have a bunch of good players, so I'm sure it will pick up in the new year.

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I just realized that my treelord is gone??????

I would consider him an important part of Pangaea's strategy.

Re: Fools Lament III (modded) - Recruiting Now!
 

Gone? i.e. vanished without explanation?

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Patch, how does patch work with multiplayer, can I use patch in 1 mp game and not in 1 map and in 1 sp game all same time?

Re: Fools Lament III (modded) - Recruiting Now!
 

yep, gone as in he was never there. This is important because without him cranking out vinemen/ogres, it makes it significantly easier for someone to roll Pangaea early.

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Nappa: not sure what to do about that...

Legacyspy: If you patch your game, you will still be able to play I think but you will see mismatched battle replays.

However I think we should patch the server to v2.15. The benefits of doing so are great, especially for server stability.

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we are what, turn 2? we could just restart in the new year,
patched and restarted w/ the players interest high(instead of super slow for holidays then try to get players to come back to it).
Just a suggestion.
(i perfer this over a 72 hrs grind through the holidays)

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I have no problem restarting in the new year.
I'd prefer not to patch the game until mosehansen has been patched, I don't like having multiple installs
odd_enuf

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I think restarting would be more convenient than 72 hrs between turns.

If we restart, I'd vote to revisit the upgrading to 2.15 issue then. By then everybodies other games may be upgraded as well.

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I think restart 2

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We haven't decided on a restart yet though, so don't forget to get your turns in until we do.

I don't care wether we restart or not.

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What says Soapy? I'd prefer continuing, though won't object to a restart either. Upgrading I support anyway; it might as well be us who find the bugs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif