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geoschmo January 18th, 2005 04:06 PM

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Hey, there's a pilot shortage right? Dirk could play a grizzeled old colonial warrior dude. He could be she-Bucks mentor, the instructor from the academy that taught her how to fly hard and party harder. Bring him back for one Last go and let him go out in a blaze of glory saving the fleet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Of course they could find him on the planet they left him to rot on in Galactica 1980. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

ZeroAdunn January 18th, 2005 04:16 PM

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You have to wonder now if Boomer only carry out cylon commands when the cylons are present (and transmit the commands) or if she's programmed to suddenly snap one day and kill 500 people. Maybe both?



She was planet side in the rain. Then became aware (came to) on the ship with the rain water still running off of her. Seems to be a little extra dimensional stuff going on.

Actually, I am fairly certain the water was because she had been in the potable water tanks placing the explosives.

Both boomers are a cylon, I think galactica boomer is having some sort of conflict between her human programing and her sleeper agent programing, because the sleeper agent programing appears to just be designed to take over the body every once in a while and commit terrorist acts, while the human programming is supposed to be active all the time, and is designed to be a little too human, and thus doesn't want to hurt her friends and is fighting the sleeper agent programming.

Thermodyne January 18th, 2005 04:25 PM

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You have to wonder now if Boomer only carry out cylon commands when the cylons are present (and transmit the commands) or if she's programmed to suddenly snap one day and kill 500 people. Maybe both?





She was planet side in the rain. Then became aware (came to) on the ship with the rain water still running off of her. Seems to be a little extra dimensional stuff going on.

Actually, I am fairly certain the water was because she had been in the potable water tanks placing the explosives.

Both boomers are a cylon, I think galactica boomer is having some sort of conflict between her human programing and her sleeper agent programing, because the sleeper agent programing appears to just be designed to take over the body every once in a while and commit terrorist acts, while the human programming is supposed to be active all the time, and is designed to be a little too human, and thus doesn't want to hurt her friends and is fighting the sleeper agent programming.

Could be.

Personally, I wish they would get past all this stuff that requires me to pay attention as well as consider what is really going on, and kick some robot butt.

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro January 18th, 2005 05:02 PM

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I do appreciate the Newtonian physics of space combat. You know "bodies in motion..stay in motion." I saw attitude control jets firing on some vipers, and vipers flying in one direction while firing in another.
I paid special attention to the hanger fire. The fire suits looked like they came right off a navy ship. Also the damage control talk sounded pretty authentic. Mentioning bulkheads and damage between "frame" numbers.
Absolutely hate little lights inside space helmets though.

Azselendor January 18th, 2005 05:25 PM

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It's better than talking skull-helmets.


Zero, you pointed to something there that might be important. We've all pretty much agreed the Boomer arc is going to come to a head sooner rather than later. What if this conflict between her Human personality vs. Cylon self results her breaking down. I'm certain she suspects herself of being a cylon.

Anyone remember in the movie AI - if you stayed awake this long - a scene where Jude Law's character with with the child robot in a city. He sees a girl and begins to move towards her because of his programming, but stops and stays with the boy instead overriding his programming with something else that wasn't expected.

Starhawk January 18th, 2005 06:21 PM

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Heh only question I have is How do you not notice that the woman your having sex with has a glowing spine?

I mean you'd figure he must have caught a glimpse of her in a mirror/ or tried diferrent positions? Now maybe since boomer was meant to mix with humans so closely her spine doesn't glow when she's having sex but still....whats up with them not noticing?

[edit]: Oh and what's with the reference to talking skull helmets? not familiar with that one?[/edit]

Makinus January 19th, 2005 08:01 AM

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Heh only question I have is How do you not notice that the woman your having sex with has a glowing spine?


maybe it only glowed at that time because she was implanting something in him, and the other times it didnīt glow?

anyone wants some spoilers? i watched up to the 10th episode in the series and can answer some nagging questions (not all), but only if you really want some spoilers...

Atrocities January 19th, 2005 08:42 AM

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Heh only question I have is How do you not notice that the woman your having sex with has a glowing spine?

With lots and lot, and lots of practice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Daynarr January 19th, 2005 09:10 AM

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Heh only question I have is How do you not notice that the woman your having sex with has a glowing spine?

With lots and lot, and lots of practice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Sounds like you are very familiar with the subject. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atrocities January 19th, 2005 09:58 AM

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When it comes to enjoying a nice looking womans company, O/C. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

TurinTurambar January 19th, 2005 12:38 PM

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I was thinkin "Oh man they better not kill her off or I'll be mad!" lol and it's true if they kill her off that'd suck since she's not evil she's just pre-programed beyond her choices.

Well yeah, that, and she's the cutest chick on the show! The scene of her dripping in the locker room after sabotaging the water system was HOT!

My $0.02
Turin[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon42.gif[/img]

Starhawk January 19th, 2005 01:30 PM

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Sorry AT but the more sex you have the more I think you'd notice the woman who's spine glowed when those other girls didn't http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Turin yeah I thought boomer is the hottest gal on the show too, mainly because I like girls with dark hair, as apposed to blondes or red heads http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

geoschmo January 19th, 2005 01:37 PM

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Actually Starhawk, if you are enjoying yourself enough you might not notice something like a glowing spine. Heck, if she really knows what she's doing you might not notice if the roof blew off your house. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Starhawk January 19th, 2005 02:01 PM

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Heh well I havn't had much personal experience in that field so I wouldn't know but still a glowing spine yeak.

Anyway, anyone notice that the Galactica has over 400 guns but not a single one seems to be aimed at killing capital sized vessels? I wonder if she has missiles or something to use against capital ships?

solops January 19th, 2005 02:13 PM

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Until Adama shoves the president out the airlock and declares martial law, I'm rooting for the Cylons.

Starhawk January 19th, 2005 02:55 PM

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LOL I like this Adama MUCH better then that stupid "Holy Wiseman" that was the original Adama I mean COME ON holy men don't often become military commanders and there's a reason for that lol.


Anyway what's wrong with the president?

sachmo January 19th, 2005 03:56 PM

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LOL I like this Adama MUCH better then that stupid "Holy Wiseman" that was the original Adama I mean COME ON holy men don't often become military commanders and there's a reason for that lol.


Anyway what's wrong with the president?

I beg to differ. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Azselendor January 19th, 2005 03:57 PM

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I agree, Adama as a military commander can trump Adama as a Holyman. But the purpose of the president is clear, to serve as holyman Adama's replacement.

As for guys not noticing the glowing spines during sex... I would theorize that men... Like Baltar, have rather massive egos in that department if they notice it.

The Galactica is a Carrier in space. I would suggest her anti-capital ship weapons are based around fighter combat or something similar. As we are yet to see the Galatica knock down a cylon baseship, she may also require support combat ships like missile frigates and such.

Raging Deadstar January 19th, 2005 05:04 PM

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A Holy Man and a Military General are two vastly different jobs...

A Psychotic Murderous Faith Driven Psychopath however can apply for both as evidenced by the Crusades http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Yeah, I'd think If you were having Sex with Number 6 her glowing spine would be the Last thing you'd be looking at...*ahem*

Someone had to say it...Anyway, I find myself drawn more towards starbuck

Starhawk January 19th, 2005 06:22 PM

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Heh I like Starbuck for her kickass nature, but I like Boomer for her niceness and her hottness, OH and her dark hair http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif #6 is better looking without the wig http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

As for Galactica's anti-capital ship capabilities it kind of sounds like the entire Colonial fleet was 120 battlestars, they make no mention of smaller warships or support craft. Maybe she's got heavier weapons that we havn't seen yet:

Though Officially she has soemthing like 410 Defense guns and 14 main flak cannons, it makes no mention of primary batteries or missiles though we do hear Colonel Tigh and Adama talking about "Missiles bombs and munitions" so maybe we get to see missiles and main cannons later?

Azselendor January 19th, 2005 07:00 PM

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That's entirely possible too. There may also be others kinds of colonial craft on the galactica. One thing I'm certain she has is nukes. That one has to be a given.

Raging Deadstar January 19th, 2005 07:25 PM

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If I recall correctly in the Mini Series 2 parter the Cylon Basestar attacked with nuclear Missiles, or some sort of missile based weapon.

The Cannons seemed to be for shooting down Fighters and Incoming Missiles. It makes sense that the Galactica would just weather it. Either its Military Capital Ship Ordinance was stripped when it was about to be decommissioned, or perhaps they know they have a limited amount and can't use them frivolously.

Nodachi January 19th, 2005 08:32 PM

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The Galactica does have nuclear missiles.

It would seem that the military doctrine being used by both sides is that of air (or in this case space) superiority. I would theorize that fighters are just more cost effective than big capital ships.

Azselendor January 19th, 2005 11:14 PM

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Naturally it would be in space. Take a battlestar, fill it with 300 fighters and you can move it across a starsystem easier than 30 capital ships.

Starhawk January 19th, 2005 11:56 PM

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Actually it would be 80 fighters as they have stated they have a compliment of 4 fighter squadrons:
Red
Blue
Yellow
Green
Of 20 fighters each which means 80 fighters.

Okay the estimated total military strength of the Colonial Fleet is as follows:
120 Battlestars (confirmed)
9,600 Fighters (80 fighters per battlestar assuming the new battlestars have the same compliment as the Galactica Class)
480 Raptors (assuming 1 raptor per squadron)
Each fully manned battlestar let's say 5,000 people times 120= 600,000 persons.

All in all a small military navy for 12 worlds each with populations numbering in the billions.

gregebowman January 20th, 2005 12:09 AM

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Raging Deadstar said:
If I recall correctly in the Mini Series 2 parter the Cylon Basestar attacked with nuclear Missiles, or some sort of missile based weapon.

The Cannons seemed to be for shooting down Fighters and Incoming Missiles. It makes sense that the Galactica would just weather it. Either its Military Capital Ship Ordinance was stripped when it was about to be decommissioned, or perhaps they know they have a limited amount and can't use them frivolously.

For those of you who haven't bought the dvd, there is a deleted scene in which they show the Galactica dumping all of her munitions as part of her retirement. When it was a safe distance away from the ship, they blew it all up. Don't you know they must have regretted that once the war started. I think the only reason they don't have missiles is that the supply station where they resupplied must not have had any. Or not enough to blow up a Cylon baseship.

As far as Boomer, I think she's fighting her sleeping cell side, and will eventually resolve her conflict and be with the good guys. There's at least 2 of them, and I think they'll both do the same thing. Although one might have to be sacrificed. I wonder if Baltar will really work on a Cylon detection system, or just fake it like he has been doing?

I'd love to see Dirk Benedict and Richard Hatch both appear on the show. Maybe they can reprise the episode where Starbuck finds her dad (in the original episode, it was Fred Astaire). I'm still wondering why Kara is so mad at Colonel Tighe. Someone mentioned awhile back that he could be her father. It's either that, or it could be they had an affair. The reference to his wife doesn't really clear it up. It could mean that Tighe remarried after divorcing Kara's mother, and she took her name. Or it could mean that's why their affair ended, because he married someone who he wasn't supervising (that's why there's rules against fraternization).

Azselendor January 20th, 2005 02:21 PM

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I think that right there suggests the colonial navy has to be much larger than we thought with many more sizes of ships in additional to battlestars.

Other option is that since the galactica is an older ship, newer battlestars may have larger compliments of fighters and such.

Starhawk January 20th, 2005 03:20 PM

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Either that or it sugjests a different mentallity about warfare then what modern Earth humans consider to be "proper" warfare.

Azselendor January 20th, 2005 11:45 PM

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could be, we simply don't know enough about the structure of the galactica universe in this series.

Makinus January 21st, 2005 07:14 AM

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WARNING - POSSIBLE SPOILER












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I wonder if Baltar will really work on a Cylon detection system, or just fake it like he has been doing?


he will create one but it have a catch: it takes (IIRC) around 9-10 hours to test the blood sample of 1 person... and only one can be tested at the same time... and only Baltar seems to know how to operate the machinery (he needs to operate himself the detector) - so with rougly 48.000 humans in the fleet you can do you own math to calculate how much time it will take to test everyone... (3 or 4 years i believe, and this without counting sleep periods for Dr. Baltar)

Azselendor January 21st, 2005 03:12 PM

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You mean Baltar actually works?

Azselendor January 21st, 2005 03:14 PM

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A gripe with the old series.

They had less than two season under thier belt for running across the stars and the civilian council of 12 were already calling it quits.

geoschmo January 21st, 2005 03:58 PM

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You know, the SciFi channel takes a lot of flak. And some of it is deserved. But it occurs to me that they do a pretty darn good service to science fiction fans. Look at the friday night lineup. Four straight hours of original programing. I can remember as a teenager we had one UHF station that showed star trek reruns once a week at 11PM on the and the occasional 3AM showing of the Forbidden Planet. Now we have so many shows that we have the luxury of being choosy and griping over the few that shows they produce that suck. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Makinus January 21st, 2005 04:08 PM

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Anyone wtached the Darklight mini-series from Sci-Fi? i read some reviews saying it is crap... but, comparing with the BG series it is better or worse (or in the same level)?

I ask because i read reviews bad things about BG and when i watched i found it a good show (my only gripe are the scenes where the camera keeps zooming in and out at random... it makes me dizzy)

Raging Deadstar January 21st, 2005 04:34 PM

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I ask because i read reviews bad things about BG and when i watched i found it a good show (my only gripe are the scenes where the camera keeps zooming in and out at random... it makes me dizzy)

You mean in the space scenes? I quite like that, It's a nice touch in my opinion, I also like the way they use music (mainly percussion and drums) in the titles, tense moments and space battles. It's quite original http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro January 21st, 2005 08:27 PM

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Yeah I love it too. Did you see (of course you did) that extreme zoom in of the Galactica at Ragnar station, after the FTL jump in. The huge Galactica was still small against the storm background, just beautiful photography.
I keep seeing intresting teasers from upcoming episodes. Hero doing some urban combat with cyclons. Starbuck trying to fix a messy looking (bio ship?) spacecraft. Baltar requesting a nuke? Can't wait! I love this show. DANG! I work tonight!

VaultDweller January 21st, 2005 11:15 PM

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EvilGenius:

Do what I do, turn on the VCR, record Galactica AND the rest of the shows. I don't have to work, but going out on Fridays keeps the significant other happy. You know how it works.

Caduceus January 22nd, 2005 04:30 PM

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The latest episode - Richard Hatch guest-stars, which should come as no suprise if anyone has seen the opening credits. I enjoyed this episode as well. Very tense writing. I also enjoyed the two SG episodes prior. Any chance of a Replicator shipset, AT?

sachmo January 23rd, 2005 11:15 AM

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Still happy. And I agree, Geo. Sci-fi will be complained about; it's the nature of the fanbase. In the end, I would guess that most are happy it exists, despite it's imperfections. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Stormwaltz January 23rd, 2005 11:56 PM

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Just a quick note for those who commented the distinctive style of the CG work. It's done by a studio called ZOIC, which first created the "handycam" style for Joss Whedon's SF series Firefly. In fact, the ship from Firefly has a cameo in the miniseries.

Randallw January 24th, 2005 02:51 AM

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Any chance of a Replicator shipset, AT?

I started a Replicator set for Stars! a few years ago (I don't have it anyore). They're not too difficult. Once you have made the first chip, you can build everything else with it.

Atrocities January 24th, 2005 02:54 AM

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I once worked with a back stabbing SOB like the Baltar character. I do hope that at some point we get to see his sinivling back stabbing *** spaced. Ohhhhh that would be sweet.

The imperfections, albeit annoying, are sufforable so long as they remain minor, and the series continues. [img]/threads/images/graemlins/Smile.gif[/img]

Firefly was an intersting series. I liked the song they used in the lead in. To bad the series was cancelled.

Raging Deadstar January 24th, 2005 08:57 AM

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Firefly was an intersting series. I liked the song they used in the lead in. To bad the series was cancelled.

Not for Long! With Serenity the Movie coming out and some peoples exclamations of "It's better than the Original Star Wars!" (which i can believe) There's a lot of hope that instead of making more movies they'll attempt a second season, and there's nothing like a succesful movie to get the Dollar signs in the Executives Eyes [img]/threads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

sachmo January 24th, 2005 11:41 AM

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Firefly was an intersting series. I liked the song they used in the lead in. To bad the series was cancelled.

Not for Long! With Serenity the Movie coming out and some peoples exclamations of "It's better than the Original Star Wars!" (which i can believe) There's a lot of hope that instead of making more movies they'll attempt a second season, and there's nothing like a succesful movie to get the Dollar signs in the Executives Eyes <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Would the people who proclaim it to be "better than the original Star Wars" be wearing brown coats? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I've had to take everything I've heard about it with a grain of salt, because everything I've heard has been from fans of the show or the actors themselves. And now we have to wait until September. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Atrocities January 24th, 2005 01:28 PM

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Firefly was an intersting series. I liked the song they used in the lead in. To bad the series was cancelled.

Not for Long! With Serenity the Movie coming out and some peoples exclamations of "It's better than the Original Star Wars!" (which i can believe) There's a lot of hope that instead of making more movies they'll attempt a second season, and there's nothing like a succesful movie to get the Dollar signs in the Executives Eyes <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I recall reading a review or two that said that Riddic was the best sci-fi movie since the original Star Wars, and well, it was not.

I will reserve judgement on any movie now knowning what I know now about shaddy advertising and bought off reviews. (My fingers are crossed though - but they were also crossed for wing commander and starship troops..... and again we know how those turned out.)

Starhawk January 24th, 2005 02:03 PM

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GRRRRRRRRRAAAAAARRR I liked "Chronicles of Riddick" and I want them to make that third movie so keep yur gob shut about dissing it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif lol j/k

As for that movie Serenity we can only hope it's gonna be good I suppose.

Daynarr January 24th, 2005 02:31 PM

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I recall reading a review or two that said that Riddic was the best sci-fi movie since the original Star Wars, and well, it was not.

I will reserve judgement on any movie now knowning what I know now about shaddy advertising and bought off reviews. (My fingers are crossed though - but they were also crossed for wing commander and starship troops..... and again we know how those turned out.)

Riddic IS the best sci-fi movie since Star Wars! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
It's also the movie I saw most times so far. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Caduceus January 24th, 2005 03:34 PM

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Riddic IS the best sci-fi movie since Star Wars! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
It's also the movie I saw most times so far. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

We need to expand your cuisine, Daynarr http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Azselendor January 24th, 2005 03:36 PM

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You riddick people are nuts.

Clearly Fiddler on the Roof was the best sci-fi movie since star wars - ever.

mac5732 January 25th, 2005 12:18 AM

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Never saw Riddick, maybe I missed something.... have to ck around.


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