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I think the most effective act of terrorism you could commit against the USA would be to knock out the TV networks. It would be an almost impossbly big task, granted, but imagine the results. Quite apart from the trillion-dollar hole in the economy where all that advertising and spending used to be, the morale and societal imapcts would be massive.

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OK, OK, I withdraw my statement http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif I was wrong...

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No need to withdraw your statement just because some ppl have a differnt opinion. Maybe you're right and everyone else is wrong. No-one really knows.

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Large-scale (I won't say "Islamic" here because... well, I'll explain below) terrorism is largely impossible in the US. Terrorists ususally aren't that clear-headed.

The reason I wont type "Islamic" above is because that would be severe religious discrimination. I personally know several Muslims, and they're all very nice people, also firmly opposed to Al-Qaeda. In fact, most of the Islamic world (here at least) firmly opposes terrorism. And then why would I type "Islamic terrorism" when it's only a small part of the Islamic world that commits these atrocious acts?

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Pssh. I think somebody also forgot to tell you that Hollywood is the ***-crack of Los Angeles http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif Everything is a facade, and if you go beyond the main roads, you can see it for the slum it really is. Now the Valley on the other hand... or more accurately, vallies, there's a lot of them... Those people are the ones with the great teeth, big cars, and are never sad. They usually work in Hollywood, and they're almost always stoned. Which explains the never sad bit.

And as for nukes in other countries... look at it this way. Yes, technically it would be just as easy to put all of them on subs, and then the missile force would be a lot more mobile. But by having missiles at a fixed land location, it is more guaranteed that the missile will be there and ready the instant it is needed. But there's another reason. The countries hosting the missiles WANT them to be there. Think about it: some neighbor is giving you problems, all you have to do is mention that the US gave you THE BOMB. That's a pretty powerful bargaining tool. So in the end, it ends up being a trade. The US gets a guaranteed launch point, the host country gets better diplomatic relations and the ability to trot out that little fact in any negotiations.

And that basically sums up everything in this thread. If something exists, there's probably an American who will try to sell it. But, as was already said, you shouldn't get pissed off at the US for selling, you need to get pissed off at the people who are buying it. Basic economics, if there is no demand, supply means diddly. People all over the world buy into "American excess" because THEY WANT TO. I'm not saying it's a good thing, I personally abhor most of it, and prefer to live simply. But don't blanket-blame an entire country for what amounts to the vices of everyone else.

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When you talk about Ireland, and the fighting that goes on there, do you not say "the Catholics fighting the Protestants"? Is that also severe religious discrimination? I highly doubt that all Catholics and Protestants are fighting, no?

It is not severe religious discrimination to say "Islamic terrorists" because it is simply a distinguishing identifier. It is no worse than saying "that white serial killer". If you say "that white serial killer" are you discriminating against all white people? I think not. That's not discrimination, it's just an identifier, so people know what you're talking about.

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I was under the impression that US nukes deployed to foreign bases stay in the foreign US bases themselves, which are sovereign US territory unless otherwise dictated, which means that the nukes are under total US control and are not "given" to their host countries.

And a nuke does not mean better diplomatic relations and the ability to trot out that "little fact" in any negotiations; it only gives the other party (or parties) incentive to gain equal nuclear footing, or even achieve nuclear "superiority", which just screws up everything. Cuba was awarded nukes because the soviets wanted to offset american nukes in Turkey; The UK and France developed their own nukes in responce to Soviet and perhaps American ones; Pakistan developed nukes in order to offset India's military might, which in turn developed nukes itself; China developed nukes in order to tell the soviets off in the Sino-Soviet split, and support for nukes is growing if not revitalized in South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan, because of NK's nukes. Need I say more?

Hear, hear.

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Islamic terrorism is as such because Islamic terrorists use Islam as "justification" to launch vicious attacks on other muslims and people of the book such as Christians and Jews who are all deemed "infidels" through their "true and clear" view of Islam.

Even Moslems themselves refer Al-Zarqawi and others as islamic terrorists - are they then discriminating against their own religion?

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tesco goes to the microwave and puts some popcorn in
sets it at 2 minutes high.

beep beep

grabs some beers and the popcorn

sits down.

opens the bag and munch munch...

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Tesco, pass me some too. I want to throw some at Dogscoff every time he posts something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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The difference lies in the word "the" - iEnglish, "the" identifies a specific noun (the white serial killer") whereas, if left off, applies to ALL of that class of subjects. Hence, I would think that, grammatically speaking, equating "the white serial killer" with "the islamic terrorists" is fine. But by saying "islamic terrorist" you are essentially saying ALL muslims are terorrists.

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Not semantically true, but I think it is true that that is what many people hear.

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Alarikf, it all depends on context.

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Your point is only partly right. It has been scientificly -PROVEN- that certain integrints within mcdonalds, burgerking and fast food products in general are indeed addictive as well. Just watch the movie i mentioned, SuperSize Me, afterwards you will know a few things you didnt want to. Whats happening is amazing, on the entire line unbelieveable.

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No offense, but you should open your eyes. Under NO circumstances would countries with history like france and especially germany be willing to openly accept the stationing of nuclear weapons within their countries. BUT, and thats the point here, would they have denied the US request they would have to face certain consequences. When germany didnt participated in the iraq war, most german companies were sanktioned and didnt received ANY official orders/tasks both in iraq and afganistan. Up to NOW, it is inofficialy known that german companies are overseen when choosing which companies get which order. And THIS indeed is cultural imperalism. I dont get your point...
Over the last month i have read so many articles its hardly to believe. I think europens definitly get to know more than americans or canadians or texans or whatever. Would you know what i do, i would be sure you would agree on the entire line with me. America is wrong, american people, the gouverment, the president, their are all wrong and need to be taken care off. I dont know how, but something must happen in the near future. While im at it, i dont entirely blame the population for it, because they are somehow kept "stupid". I mainly blame the newspapers and tv and stuff for not spreading information correctly. Then again, i fully blame the gouverment and whoever helped bringing bush into the presidents position.

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"Islamic terrorism" and the "justification" of it are both bull****. I've talked with a Muslim about it once, and he says that those terrorists are NOT "good Muslims", just like a Christian killer is not a "good Christian". The Koran says that it is a sin to kill people, like the bible does, and the person I talked with about it said that those terrorists will most likely end up in Hell.

To say that the Islamic terrorism is justified by the Koran is total nonsense. Those who claim it isn't need to talk to a Muslim about it once.

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Holy scriptures can be used by those looking to twist them as justification for anything... It is all a matter of interpretation and which parts you stress over the others.

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Yes... but according to most of those living by the Koran the people that use it to justify blowing themselves up with lots of other people around misinterpret the Koran and are therefore (not because of the misinterpretation, because of the acts that follow it) are sinners, doomed to Hell.

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Your confusing "America" with "American Business".
We import Japanese cars by the bucketloads... We buy more foregin cars than domestic I believe. Does that mean the Japanese are trying to push thier "cultural imperialism" on us? No, it is simply international trade and business men trying to make a buck.

Iraq is a total mess. BUT it is not America patting itself on the back. People everywhere in the US still protest our actions there... it is the Bush administration doing the patting. You should see/hear/read the heated debates between the Republicans and the Democrats over the war. Just so happens the Bush supporters are in control of the government right now. Republicans hold majority in both the house and senate so Bush has little opposition to his agenda. So the "American Policy" transmitted to the world is the "Republican/Bush American Policy".

America has the same problem as an overplayed comercial. You get sick of seeing it all the time and end up hateing it.

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Excerpt from chat transcript. Cultural imperialism exists. QED.

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If this is the case than the US is the one being assaulted by "Cultural Imperialism". We IMPORT way more product than we EXPORT. Look at the "made in" stamps on the products you buy. Guarantee you US made products are few and far between. Your unknowingly culturaly assailed by the Chiniese. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Excerpt from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe exists. QED.

Feel free to replace "Restaurant at the End of the Universe" with "Earth creatures with seventeen eyes, sapience, and sixty pink wings", or anything that strikes your fancy. That, and IG2 happens to be in a different setting than real life.

And if you want to nitpick, Puke wrote "cultural imperialism"; the " sign seems to mean Puke considered the phrase as being incorrect. The other uses of this sign do not seem to apply here: it is not a quotation, or spoken speech, or a word of foreign origin, or the name of a book/movie, or a way to delimit propositions.

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Erm... could you translate that please?

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I cannot; I am supposed to be obscure and all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Pitiful attempts at levity aside, I made the list of all usual uses of the " sign to support my claim about why Puke used them. I cannot be sure of why he did it of course, since I am not him. I think.

Since "cultural imperialism" was not a quotation of some kind or another, I made my claim that Puke considered the phrase as not being wholly accurate or adequate. Another such example would be "Why aren't your 'friends" helping you out?", if the speaker considers that you are wrong to call them friends.

*Grumbles* Why do I have the feeling the explanation is even more obtuse than my previous post? Next time, remind me to leave grammar aside.

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'Tis OK. Excellent explanation

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It is most certain the Germany and France etc would not dare to refuse the stationing of American missiles in their countries. Though I'm not exactly certain why, since the US in turn could only impose economic sanctions in return. Granted, those do hurt, a lot. I should know. The product my parents produce is currently "prohibited" from entering the US, so I know how important sanctions are first hand! I also am aware that the US only gave contracts for "rebuilding" Iraq and Afghanistan to those who supported their war. Yes, I would agree that that is a form of "cultural imperialism", if there is such a thing. America as a whole may be "wrong" as you say, but the people are not all wrong. They are simply ignorant. Now, the people who helped elect Bush, they are definitely "wrong" in my opinion. Then again, would Kerry have been any better?? In some ways yes, in others no. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, is that it? It seems like it to me. The government, the leaders, yes they are wrong. In some important ways at least.

To go back to the German companies being "overlooked" in favor of companies who were based in a country that supported Bush's war. Canada was one of the countries who did NOT support the Iraq war the US waged. We too have been the victim of the same discrimination against our fully qualified companies. I don't believe that I am ignorant, which you seemed to be implying. I may not be as fully informed as you are, I agree that that is completely possible. But I do my best with the information that I have at my disposal.

I have intended no offense. All I was doing is trying to explain things as I see them. This conversation we're having is the exact reason why I posted, so that I could be informed of other viewpoints, and learn new things. I thank you for enlightening me, and I hope that I may have managed in some small way to help you to learn something as well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I have just one thing to say on this. The fact that much of the world has the right to chose their way of life at all, is do in large part to the actions of the United States. How soon the ungrateful will forget.

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France has nukes of its own; Germany doesn't need to host any nukes if it does currently since US bases in Italy can more than accomodate them. Both countries don't need to station US nukes, or at least not anymore. If it wasn't for the vehement opposement of German politicians, bases in Germany would quickly be closed and US service personnel would be sent home or somewhere else where they are needed like Turkey or the Persian Gulf.

Of course that's cultural imperialism. It doesn't matter that companies of 48 nations from all five continents were eligible to recieve contracts for the reconstruction of Iraq, ranging from the UK to South Korea to Japan to the Netherlands to Poland to the Ukraine and many more, because their respective nations gave direct or indirect support (and some not even troops) to the Coalition war effort, as long as Russian, German, French, and Canadian companies were never even considered even after their respective governments chose not to get themselves involved with Iraq in any way possible, that just shows the blatant pervasiveness of US cultural dominance that the Americans seek to diffuse around the world!

Edit: Btw, you must have missed this.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/am...mit/index.html

Of course, I mean, those european media outlets get their news not just from Reuters but from Associated Press too! Just like every other media outlet in the world.

And this is a sure sign that europeans such as yourself know a lot more about the world than the rest of us.

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I've always found it interesting that with all the money the US spends overseas (look at our trade deficits) it seems to be one of the most hated countries of the world.

Earlier in the thread someone (I forget who) pointed out that the US invaded Iraq without the UN's consent. I would like to point out two things concerning that; #1 - The US was just enforcing an already existing UN resolution, and #2 - The US (or any other sovereign nation) does not need the UN's consent to do anything. The UN is just another example of a corupt bureaucracy that is more concerned with maintaining and increasing it's own power than doing the job it was created for.

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I stand corrected. However, the right to bid on a contract doesn't necessarily mean that the aforementioned bid will be considered, does it? Pure political posturing. (The Triple P http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif )

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Perhaps better PR would help.

All you hear the US doing overseas is bombing countries into the ground...

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Because that is all the media wishes to report as it drives up views and or readers. Think bigger, don't let the media dictate your opinion. Ya the media would love nothing better than to convince the world that all the US military is out to do is bomb little helpless people back into the stone age. Give me a f***ing break.

Don't buy into the propaganda. Just think for yourselves for a God damn change and ask yourselves some questions. Like why would the US bomb said country into the ground.... Hummm could it be because there is a larger goal or issue at stake? I don't know and I really don't want to speculate. All I know is that we are not doing this simply to do it as the world media has seemed to decree. In fact who the hell are these SOB's that they can tell you and I what to think and what we should believe? They are nothing more than rich SOB's out to make themselves richer off of our interest in whats going on. They cast the US in a bad light and feed the fires of resentment not over fair and accurate news, but over the all mighty green back, deutch mark, frank, rupple, pound, Loonie, or whatever the hell your currancy is. They are telling us what they think we should know in such a way as to stir the fricking pot. The truth died long ago and with it, any resemblence of real news. Hell if it were Bill Clinton doing this the UN would be selling seats like it was major sporting event. "Come one come all, come get rich quick off the scams we running now." The world media would be casting the insurgance in Iraq as the blood thristy criminals they really are and not has the heroic freedom fighters that they are NOT.

I shudder to think of Bill Clinton as SG of the UN.. OMFG NO!!!! And his slevok wife as the President of the USA.. ... No Way In Hell that should ever be allowed to happen. My god the USA would become a puppet nation to the UN.

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Oh ya, just for the record, I know that if the crap really came down, our friends the Canadians, Mexicans, and even a few over seas would stand with us. We might bicker back and fourth about this right now, but in 20 years, 50 years, or even a 100 years from now NONE of this will matter. So why waste your time debating it now?

Trust me it won't change a thing, and all it will do is tick a lot of people off at one another that otherwise wouldn't be mad at each other. I say take your opinions and hard line attitudes on over to PBW and hash em out over a nice game of SEIV. Hell play as countries, winner take all.

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Maybe everyone here needs to take a break? This is getting a little too heated.

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I *can't* PBW.

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How soon all the Europeans forget that they always call on "The Good Old USA" when they need something dirty done.
Why didn't the EU take care of the genocide that happened in Bosnia before the US got involved?

Now I'm not saying I agree with the current administration's actions (Bush WASN'T my choice) but don't lump all of America in one box and mark it EEEVIL!
There are power hungry leaders in every country on Earth.

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I know... but in the US it is far, far more evident than in any ohter country. I agree that Bosnia was a black eye for Europe, but I think Iraq was a black eye for the US.

However, IMO Afghanistan was a feather in the US's cap. We've never heard any important news from there in over a year. For as far as I know, Afghanistan is now a peaceful, free country. But to say there is an "Axis of Evil"... is a very big black eye for the US.

(So... someone else here read Catch-22?)

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Really? Ever hear of North Korea?

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More evident WORLDWIDE. So far, North Korea hasn't been that much of a worldwide influence. The US HAS. Now, I say again, I have nothing against American people in general; but it is the American government and their policy that I detest.

As said before, by someone:
In under four years' time Bush's term will have ended, and then the world can celebrate.

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That's because Nork nukes have a limited range. But there are about 2 billion people and some influential countries who are directly or indirectly affected by the North Korean Crisis. If North Korean nukes could reach Europe, you wouldn't be saying that.

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Right now North Korea's missiles have an estimated range of 3600 miles. That is why China is pushing so hard for them to discontinue their nuke program.

Speaking of China, they are the next potential threat. If they were to switch their production over to a war footing it would make the US's WWII war machine look like kids playing with blocks. It really is just a matter of time before China starts trying to expand. When they do none of their neighbors will be able to stand up to them in a conventional war. If the US steps in to stop them it will (yet again) be the bad guy in the eyes of the world sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong. Yet if the US does nothing the world will cry foul that the US is 'allowing' China to act aggressively.
We catch Hell either way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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Seems to me the America of the 1940s bears very little resemblance to the america of today. I mean, no-one expects the Germany of today to be the same as it was 65 years ago.

Woo. Money. Yeah. That's OK then.

Or the exact opposite. Ah, the short attention span of the media...

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I should have known this was a Euro-Whiner type of topic. America attacks countries because because we can. And sometimes doing things the nice way (diplomatically) is slow and chock full of Euro-self intrest that it's sick. Iraq may or may not have been a mistake. I could not imagine how many more years the Hussain family would have ruled Iraq. I'm just mad that my president had to lie to me about going in. I'm also mad that his buddies are making alot of money off of it too. And I must confess that I am really enjoying all the European countries trying to negotiate the end to Iran's nuclear program..all to no avail. And when that diplomacy fails who do you think their gonna call? The U.N.? Don't even bother. China and Russia will veto any military intervention there. What are those poor peaceful and concerned European countries gonna do? We practically had to pull all of the E.U. (screaming and crying) just to help out in Kosovo! And in the end they caught a French General calling Serbia on his cell with that nights targets! Wow, what great friends.
As for U.S. nuclear warheads in France? Bull! France is not a member of NATO and they have enough of a nuclear deterrent anyway. You may have warheads in your country but thats because you are a member of NATO. Just like their is a RAF training detachment in Nebraska. And if you remember, the U.S. had recalled the Pershing II delivery vehicles and destroyed them in full view of Russian spy satellites. The Tomahawk GLCM's were recalled and re-fitted for aerial and naval launch platforms. And I do recall we are destroying our warhead stockpiles, it takes time you know. If we were true Imperialists, you wouldn't even have a government to complain too. You would be called "Airstrip One".
If your culture is so superior then just do what we do and market it. Let's see something coming back this way instead. I know the commercialism is annoying. It makes me really sick at Christmas time. But we're not the only ones. The asians are so into it, that I can't even understand what they are selling sometimes. Go look at engrish.com
And if you think our businesses own everything, you should see who owns our businesses. Not the Japanese or Saudis. The Dutch and British are the biggest investors in American business. The Japanese don't even come close. Except in Hawaii of course.
I just feel that this time around we are caught with a bad administration that people were too scared to dump. Don't hate us for it. We mean well. And if it's not us selling you crap, it would be someone else. Someone else who isn't your friend.

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i was talking to a friend the other day, and we were discussing that modern day america is probably the last empire the world is likely to see, and that this is probably the end of it.

i mean, not like its going to come crashing down tomorrow, but the era of imperialism is on the wain. after we succumb to ignorance, corruption, and decadance, i dont think anyone else will ever achieve the same things. i dont think any one nation will ever dictate global policy in the same way, nor will other nations plant military bases all over the world. none others do now.

but for all that, it does not much feel like we (in the US) are living in a great empire. it feels pretty mundane, like any other place.

or does it? Japan and Hongkong are both very modern, industrial, first-world places - by any measure. citizens enjoy a high standard of living, and you can find some of the most expensive realestate in the world there. But many things are not like you would expect to find in the US. toilet water is sea water, and is not desalitinized. paper napkins in restaurants are very small and thin sheets. if you want hot water, you have to turn on your own water heater and wait for it to get hot - it does not run all the time. so its an extra 5 to 10 minutes when you want to take a shower, and you usually wont bother with the heater just to wash your hands.

In the States, i flush my fecies down the toilet with fresh drinkable water. i could take a gulp from the back tank of the toilet if i was so inclined, and it would be more sanitary than the real drinking water in most of the world. I can be a pig at a restaurant, and use as many danm napkins on my greasy fingers as i want. and I have hot water whenver i want it, a big heater is running round the clock just incase i get the urge to wash my hands at 01:00 in the morning.

supermarkets here are better stocked with produce and all manner of foodstuffs. it might not be as fresh as what you could get in a european maret, but we sure as hell have more of it. year-round, too. you can buy things in the states even outside of their growing seasons, thanks to hydroponics, genetic engineering, and farms in places with all kinds of weather. I can go to the market in the dead of winter, and buy as much citrus fruit as i can carry.

and those are just a few small examples of the luxuries that we overlook. sure, we dont have seargent pepper parrading his company up and down the square for the pomp and glory of our empire. but undeniably, this is an empire - and our great-grandchildren will probably never see another one like it.

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We are already developing advanced Hypersonic aircraft that don't need forward bases. I bet they probably won't need pilots either. Looking forward to that new E.U. Swift Reaction force. Let's see Europe do some world policing for a change. I get a little tired of others always yelling at the U.S. for not getting involved/getting involved. I guess when your on top, all that heavenly backlight makes for a good silhouette to take shots at.

The American Empire: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

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EvilGenius, I agree with nearly everything you have said. It simply is too easy to criticize, and not look at the way things "could have been". Most of the time, the other options the US had would have led us eventually to a worse world. I'm not saying I like wars, but sometimes wars are the only way to change corrupt, and just truely evil places. I for one am happy my country is an ally of the US. And I'm sure as hell happy that the US is around....if it wasn't I'd probably be speaking Japanese by now.

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Damn right we'd be with you! Unless you were trying something like genocide....don't think I'd be with you then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif But come WWIII, I'll be there, fighting alongside Americans, you can bet on it. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_Canada.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_Canada.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_Canada.gif[/img]

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So... you'd be fighting in WWIII. Just don't expect to survive.

Call me a ****ing idiot, but I still believe WWIII will be fought using, amongst other weapons, nukes. If worst come to worst, and we get WWIII, it will most likely involve China and N-Korea... both with nukes... on one camp, and the NATO on the other.

Global nuclear exchange.

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*Sigh* I give up. This man is lost to us. Whoever that tries to actually inform him that the cold war is over, I wish him luck.