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Jurri March 18th, 2005 06:54 PM

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It's borked for me too... I seem to recall that Mose's troubles were lessened when the gamecount was diminished.

Saber Cherry March 19th, 2005 03:37 AM

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Seems to be back up now.

Mark the Merciful March 21st, 2005 04:39 PM

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Jotunheim is now in real trouble thanks to my pretender dying in a Province-Defence-forces-invincible-SC-to-retreat incident. I knew I shouldn't have tried to defend that province, but you buggers did your turns too quickly and I couldn't get home in time to change my orders...

quantum_mechani March 24th, 2005 12:35 AM

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ouch, staling cost me my pretender...

Saber Cherry March 24th, 2005 01:23 AM

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How come none of my mages are in the Hall of Fame? Seems like they kill 20+ every turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I wish you could check kills on non HoF commanders.

So, now there's a 430-unit Marignon army adjacent to me. I bet it has loads of sea trolls, and they have too many HP / too much regeneration for Blade Wind to wipe them out when they get hit by about 1 blade every 2 turns. So I'm doing a fighting retreat: Earthpower, Blade Wind, Blade Wind, Retreat for my dwarves and Thunder Strike, Thunder Strike, Retreat for my air-3 mages (reinvigoration keeps them from passing out... I hope!). Hopefully I'll kill a couple hundred flagellants, my mages will retreat unharmed, and the remaining enemy will starve in their newly-conquered 3000-pop province before attacking again.

Here's a question... I have some Astral-2 Air-2 mages. What's best for them to cast, Solar Rays, Starfires, Lightning Bolt, something else? I don't have Orb Lightning, and it's too short-range, anyway. They're going up against a pack of 50 starving and diseased archers and slingers (should average about 2 morale).

Graeme Dice March 24th, 2005 02:04 AM

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What research levels do you have?

Saber Cherry March 24th, 2005 03:28 AM

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Evocation 4, Construction 4, Conjuration 5. Drain 2 with expensive mages is tough http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Graeme Dice March 24th, 2005 04:23 AM

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Well, lightning bolt is probably your best bet. Star fires is not very stellar. Solar rays only works against undead and demons. If you had paralyze, I'd suggest that, as it would help to take the sea trolls out of the fight. If you had a storm in the battle, then go for Summon Storm Power, followed by thunder strikes.

Saber Cherry March 24th, 2005 07:45 AM

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Graeme Dice said:
Well, lightning bolt is probably your best bet. Star fires is not very stellar. Solar rays only works against undead and demons. If you had paralyze, I'd suggest that, as it would help to take the sea trolls out of the fight. If you had a storm in the battle, then go for Summon Storm Power, followed by thunder strikes.

Hmmmm... No storm, but I'll go for lightning bolts. Thanks for the advice; I thought Solar Rays damaged everything but additionally set undead afire.

quantum_mechani March 28th, 2005 01:32 AM

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A very interesting epic battle with Marignon in Gryphon Spires. 300 maenads, 150 wolves, 35 fall bears and kithaironic lions vs. 35 sea trolls, winter wolves, summer lions and fire snakes, 80 heavy Marignon troops and a juggernaut. Marignon had some good battlefield magic casting falling frost, and a host of fire spells. In the end the swarm over came them though.

In other news, Atlantis now has an equipped water queen whacking Marignon armies and clearing the way to the throne of the world.

How is it going for Caelum? Is the siege on your capital breakable?

Saber Cherry March 28th, 2005 02:53 AM

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That is interesting news. I wondered why Marignon was pulling back; I expected a huge attack last round. But I guess they have a new front now.

Looks like I better hurry if I want to take the throne... but I don't have anything to take it with. Ooops! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

alexti March 28th, 2005 12:16 PM

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quantum_mechani said:
How is it going for Caelum? Is the siege on your capital breakable?

Yeah, it should be 2-seraph job...

Mark the Merciful March 29th, 2005 08:22 AM

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I'm having trouble connecting again. Anyone else?

Saber Cherry March 29th, 2005 08:53 AM

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Yep, it seems down again... why don't you PM Kristoffer?

Soapyfrog March 29th, 2005 12:16 PM

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I usually have to connect twice in quick succession to get on.

The first connection always fails, but if I attempt a second connection the moment its clear the first attempt has hung, I get on without a problem.

Saber Cherry March 29th, 2005 07:56 PM

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Wierd, that sort of worked.

Jurri March 30th, 2005 06:33 AM

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Soapyfrog said:
I usually have to connect twice in quick succession to get on.

The first connection always fails, but if I attempt a second connection the moment its clear the first attempt has hung, I get on without a problem.

It's like magic!

Kristoffer O March 30th, 2005 02:19 PM

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Strange

Cainehill March 30th, 2005 03:48 PM

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Mark the Merciful said:
I'm having trouble connecting again. Anyone else?

Why not just do what you did in mosehansen's "Try Something New" game and not bother taking 10 or 20 turns in a row?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

Once again, you couldn't be bothered to go AI, but can play other games? Thanks for yet again screwing over the people in a game (he _had_ twice as many provinces as the next highest, highest dominion, etc, on a World map, and just ... stopped ... playing ...)!

Soapyfrog March 30th, 2005 04:28 PM

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Yeah there seems to be a certain subset of players who do that... endless staling, without the decency to go AI.

I think that in future games I host any player that stales three turns in a row will automatically be set to AI.

Kristoffer O March 30th, 2005 08:10 PM

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I have just rebooted the game. Jotunheim entered a moment later.

Mark the Merciful March 30th, 2005 08:21 PM

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Yeah, I noticed the timer had reset, and I was immediately able to connect. Thanks Kristoffer.

Graeme Dice March 31st, 2005 01:13 AM

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I really, really, really hate ethereal crossbows.

Jurri March 31st, 2005 06:41 AM

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I really, really, really hate ethereal crossbows.

Now,I wonder why would that be... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Hey, does anyone have Fate of Oedipus researched? Wouldn't it be cool to burn Baphomet's eyes out! We could even pool our gems for the purpose, that's only like ~10 gems a head.

Saber Cherry March 31st, 2005 07:14 AM

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Can anyone cast it other than Abysia? I certainly can't, though I'd be happy to empower someone for a mere 185 gems http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Odd, I have yet to get a fire random, and I get a lot of randoms. Earth and Blood randoms on Dwarves sort of make up for it, though.

Mark the Merciful March 31st, 2005 07:58 AM

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It would probably be even cooler to dispel Arcane Nexus. If I had an Astral income, I'd happily help out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Soapyfrog March 31st, 2005 01:35 PM

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Yes let's hope the AI remains fantastically bad at resource management... the Nexus is a real powerhouse.

I'll see about casting Fate of Oedipus.

Saber Cherry April 1st, 2005 04:57 AM

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Soapyfrog said:
Yes let's hope the AI remains fantastically bad at resource management...

Well, let's just say that I hired the Eternal Knights after Marignon had them, thinking if all 8 were there it would be OK, and half of them are diseased http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif And Cardinal Carmont is invading me with 100 mixed troops, of which every single one is starving, and half are in advanced stages of disease. Food isn't a normal resource (perhaps it should be?), but regardless, I wouldn't worry too much.

Graeme Dice April 1st, 2005 12:08 PM

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It looks like the server is stuck again.

Soapyfrog April 1st, 2005 12:13 PM

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Seems to be a symptom of Linux-run servers.

Saber Cherry April 1st, 2005 06:49 PM

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I can still enter using that wierd method of opening 3 windows of Doms II and trying to connect with all three of them.

quantum_mechani April 1st, 2005 09:34 PM

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Saber Cherry said:
I can still enter using that wierd method of opening 3 windows of Doms II and trying to connect with all three of them.

It dosn't connect for me either way.

Saber Cherry April 2nd, 2005 01:11 AM

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quantum_mechani said:
It dosn't connect for me either way.

Better message Kristoffer, then...

quantum_mechani April 2nd, 2005 03:05 AM

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Ah, finally got it to work.

I think this game has gotten cursed, horror marked and diseased...

Saber Cherry April 2nd, 2005 03:26 AM

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quantum_mechani said:
Ah, finally got it to work.

I think this game has gotten cursed, horror marked and diseased...

How many simultanious instances were needed? Or were you just lucky (and ethereal)?

quantum_mechani April 2nd, 2005 03:33 AM

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Saber Cherry said:
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quantum_mechani said:
Ah, finally got it to work.

I think this game has gotten cursed, horror marked and diseased...

How many simultanious instances were needed? Or were you just lucky (and ethereal)?

It worked with 3, though I did that many (and more) earlier today with no effect.

Mark the Merciful April 2nd, 2005 08:28 AM

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Wow, what a bizarre work-around!

The third simultaneous DomII window worked for me too. So once more, the game progresses.

Kristoffer O April 3rd, 2005 01:49 PM

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Weird!

30 h until host, but I rebooted just for the sake of it. You shouldn't need three windows to play.

The other games doesn't have this kind of problem. At least not to my knowledge.

quantum_mechani April 3rd, 2005 02:36 PM

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Kristoffer O said:


The other games doesn't have this kind of problem. At least not to my knowledge.

SOC2 doesn't seem to have any of the problems.

EDIT: uh-oh, since the reboot, I can't connect and the 3 windows work around no longer works.

Graeme Dice April 5th, 2005 11:30 AM

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The server seems to be down again.

quantum_mechani April 6th, 2005 12:45 AM

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Graeme Dice said:
The server seems to be down again.

Try using 6 windows . http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Seriously, that is what is working for me...

Saber Cherry April 6th, 2005 02:31 AM

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Quote:

quantum_mechani said:
Quote:

Graeme Dice said:
The server seems to be down again.

Try using 6 windows . http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Seriously, that is what is working for me...


I use a mix of up to 8 instances of God's Eye and several of Dominions II. Gotta attack from multiple angles...

Chazar April 7th, 2005 12:37 PM

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Kristoffer O said:The other games doesn't have this kind of problem. At least not to my knowledge.

I am playing in one of the two private games running: The game started 2nd of march and we're in turn 24+ by now. Most players use a dom2-client on windows, no one encountered problems so far to my knowledge - and we're talking to each other about the game quite often.

I am doing my turns mostly on a linux laptop connected at various places and occasionally from a windows desktop. I did not encounter any connection problems with the shepherds game so far either. So I must say that connection with the Illwinter server works well for me...

Saber Cherry April 7th, 2005 09:11 PM

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Is Caelum still playing?

Saber Cherry April 8th, 2005 07:58 PM

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So, um, after 2 (or 3?) stales in a row on a 48h host game, with the staling player under siege and controlling no provinces, anyone else want to vote for setting Caelum to AI? By the time turns roll around, I totally forget everything that has happened.

Jurri April 9th, 2005 08:35 AM

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Seconded!

Mark the Merciful April 9th, 2005 10:09 AM

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Thirded

Saber Cherry April 9th, 2005 07:39 PM

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Ok, that's 3... one more is a majority http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Graeme? Quantum? Soapy?

Soapyfrog April 9th, 2005 07:55 PM

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Oh yeah set him AI... yeash!

alexti April 9th, 2005 09:35 PM

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Hey, I'm still playing, just was out of town for 3 days. Now wait how I will destroy that Marignon's army. Well, maybe... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif


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