Re: How to use Golems?
 

...okay

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Edi, you have too much stress in your life. I'm no fan of Crazy Bonvine either (why can't he spell Bovine?), but the very fact that he's only posted 7 times prevents me from rushing to judgement on him. Let's give him a chance to prove himself a helpful member of the community and all that.

(Edited to reply to Edi because other posts have appeared in between)

(Edited again because I have just seen Bonvine's latest contribution to the Dom3 Wishlist thread, which was a completely bizarre and pointless insult to Endoperez ... ok Edi, maybe you have a point!)

Re: How to use Golems?
 

bonvine can be annoying but he's new so was I once...
remember edi...?

Re: How to use Golems?
 

but the lycan amulet made my golems berserk but with that regen they didnt need magic

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So I can't even tell people I think they're smart anymore?Geez

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That's not how your comment came across, and you should well know it. What it looks like is a sarcastic smart-arse remark, especially given how you attacked Endoperez in the suggestions thread for disagreeing with you.

If you thought Frank's comment was smart (which is true), you could have just said you think he has the right idea. Now you just looked like a troll. Unless of course you meant to say that he is twice as smart as an average person, but if this was what you meant, you shouldn't have butchered the statement so badly. We do expect people to use English here, even if it is sometimes badly written, but completely mutilating what you want to say until it looks like something entirely different will get you adverse reactions and it will be nobody's fault but yours.

Naresh, yes, I remember your being new. Hell, you still are. That time I snapped at you was a clear mistake and out of bounds behavior on my part, and I hold no ill will toward you for being new here. You're enthusiastic and doing your best to contribute, even if you sometimes don't know how to do everything you want to. That's why you might have noticed me posting some replies to you when you've asked for advice. Contrast with Bonvine's posting history, there is a big difference. Don't assume I'm generally hostile to new people just on principle.

Edi

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I know and I was not trying to start another argument and I know you don't heh! we all have one of those days some times plus I've evn started my own mod!

Re: How to use Golems?
 

Golems shouldn't regenerate because they're lifeless.

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I was wondering about the lifeless regen myself, but I thought maybe it was due to and old patch?

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yea, thats what i thought though it was pretty sweet (comp in my room dosnt have net yet)

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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so you should be!
but its all in the past lts all just forget about it!

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yea, now lets get back to golems,

they are actually pretty good for the cost and versatility: they can cast good self buffs, they are strong, and they have all normal slots.

try this combo: gold shield,horror helmet, either jade armour or etheral robe,flying shoes, warrior ring and another misc of your choice and a weapon depending on their purpose (sword of swiftness for killing wimpy things, herald lance for undead ect

or as i previously mentioned give them a gate cleaver/other high damage weapon and then send them SC hunting (did 3 with a decent weapon each and killed great mother earth + her slave army)

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nice!
I have not had much experience with golems (never used them before)
but they seem quite versitile!

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yea, like i have said before try it with ulm and forge of the ancients, you can outfit all your SC,s really cheaply then.

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I like...

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also you can use this same technique with seige golem but thats not what this topics about ( also using constucts is good with the golem cult dominion if you can afford it)

Re: How to use Golems?
 

Against hordes of living troops, it's hard to beat a Blood Thorn and a Charcoal Shield for the hand slots. With a lifeless SC like a Golem, you can't use regeneration, so life drain items become even more important.

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what constructs can you get?

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well theres the high lvl constuction things so golems/iron dragons/seige golems and i think nthings like mechanical men count but havnt tryed em

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I remember when I had an Iron dragon and a load of Clockwork Horrors...Mecha Maniacs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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clockwork horrors are fun and iron drags rock but together i dunno, maybe horrors and seige golems...

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never seen a golem or iron dragon in use so I cant comment

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Just a warning on constructs - beware their MR. I don't know what a golem's MR is, but my brother lost an army of iron dragons to half a dozen death mages casting Disintegrate - boy was he upset ...

CC

Re: How to use Golems?
 

i've used iron dragons before. like any dragon, they're pretty nice

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just remembered that the second misc on my golems was anti magic amulet ( i think their basic is 18+ they can buff it in battle )

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Quick response to Naresh and shovah...

I've both noticed a tendency of both of you to look at and/or rely on the high-end, late game summons... I wouldn't base your strategy on that. Iron Dragons and such are monstrously powerful, but, at the same time, there are simply never going to be enough of them to make massive impacts on a game. If the game isn't set to 'easy' modes, it will be very difficult to keep alive long enough to truly see 10-15 ID's or Tarrasques. That is, typically, a minimum of 5-10 turns of casting, and the gem investment is rather steep.

I would suggest to look to lower Research spells that tend towards utility. I believe that the Elemental Kings/Queens are less research, and they are all decent SC's if not downright evil. Queen of Storms + 20 Air Elementals will eat many armies (particularly when you throw in Wrathful Skies and Storm).

As a learning experience, I would suggest handicapping yourselves and going with different strategies (e.g. not allowed to use FotA, Research 9 summons, and the like). This teaches you how to get the best use of the lesser effects. It is, imho, a major help towards useful knowledge of the game.

Wyatt

Re: How to use Golems?
 

i have use limias to decent effect, and orges and often use others ( such as the elemental royalty ect )

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I dearly remember my Pangaea Lamia blitz game. That was a whole lot of fun, if not very practical in terms of MP (or so I understand).

I've never really gotten to the point of using Golems, but I've appreciated the discussion regarding them here, especially as applied to anti-SC builds.