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PashaDawg June 5th, 2005 11:50 PM

Re: Sunken_Treasure : New Shahrivar game on Moseha
 
Man uploaded!

Cainehill June 6th, 2005 11:10 AM

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Seven uploaded now; still missing are :

Machaka : DrPraetorious
Arcoscephale : Romanus
Vanheim : Korn

Not sure those people's names here, so can't send a message. Plan is still to start the game tonight - Ironhawk will be uploading a pretender and kicking it off, giving us 8.

Aku and a couple others expressed interest, not sure if they're uploaded yet, but it looks like another person or two can jump in, especially if they leave those above three open in case the original players show up.

Shmonk June 6th, 2005 12:17 PM

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Great, when I get home from work if it looks like there's room for one more (or the above 3 haven't joined yet and you still only have 8), I'll jump in. I was hoping to give this map a try.

Cainehill June 6th, 2005 01:58 PM

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Okay - with 180 provinces (and almost all of it land) I'm thinking it should handle as many as 11 or even 12, which would leave 15 provinces per nation.

Shmonk June 6th, 2005 08:44 PM

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I've uploaded as Ulm.

BillPaxton June 6th, 2005 09:24 PM

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Hi, I'm new and I cant tell if this game has started.

If it hasnt, sign me up !

PashaDawg June 6th, 2005 09:45 PM

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Hello Bill!

We are about to start, but I think there are still a few openings. Can you upload your pretender tonight?

Pasha

Cainehill June 7th, 2005 02:54 AM

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Game will start in 8 hours, approximately 10 am New York time. If people miss it, well, there's a new Cradle game open on mosehansen.

Cainehill June 7th, 2005 04:20 PM

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As posted, the game started at 8 am in New Mexico, 10 am EST, something like 2 pm GMT. I believe it's set to 25 hour quickhost, but will possibly have to check with Ironhawk who kindly provided the hosting.

Ironhawk June 7th, 2005 04:28 PM

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Heh - oops!

I forgot to give your game a turn-timer :} What do you want? 24hr? Maybe I will pop on the irc channel and see if any of you are online....

RibbonBlue June 7th, 2005 06:01 PM

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24hr!

Ironhawk June 7th, 2005 07:51 PM

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I guess IRC is acting up again? I cant seem to log in. I'm just going to set you guys to what I consider to be the default - 24hrs. Enjoy!

PashaDawg June 7th, 2005 11:15 PM

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New turn is up!

Shmonk June 7th, 2005 11:19 PM

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All right!

PashaDawg June 7th, 2005 11:59 PM

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yeeeehawww!!

Cainehill June 8th, 2005 11:32 AM

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Interesting to see two nations take a second province on turn one - without getting anyone into the Hall of Fame. Wouldn't think it was possible, since the experience alone for a battle should get them into it.

Shmonk June 8th, 2005 11:51 AM

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I could tell you, but then I'd have to... well, I wouldn't do THAT. But I thought it was interesting how I came into a province on turn 1.

Dimaz June 8th, 2005 12:58 PM

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The answer is too simple - I had a castle neighboring starting prov. Or maybe I missed some specific rule about not capturing indy provinces with castles?

Shmonk June 8th, 2005 01:59 PM

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Yep, that was it, there was a castle in a neighboring province, and I went to investigate, and the enemy is afraid and inside the castle, waiting for me to rip them to shreds. But no experience for single handedly taking a province. Darn.

Cainehill June 8th, 2005 02:07 PM

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Ah, the good old castle "feature", which causes issues for maps that want to contain castles. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Hadn't realized there were castles - thought it might be the "0 troops in independent province regardless of independent strength setting" feature. (I've seen starting positions with multiple neighbors containing no troops, despite a high independent setting.)

They're both more than a little inconvenient for MP games.

Cainehill June 8th, 2005 02:45 PM

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Cool - when Truper gets away from work, it looks like we'll have 3 turns in the first day and a half.

Ironhawk June 8th, 2005 03:58 PM

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I can confirm that indys are set to 6.

Only time I've ever seen empty provinces when the indys were set to non-zero was on a map where there were specified indy provs, like Sundering.

Cainehill June 8th, 2005 05:14 PM

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Had it happen in MP games on maps including Aran and Urgaia, with indies between 6 and 9. I remember the first time I saw it happen, I sent a unit in very cautiously, thinking that I simply wasn't being told what was there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Manuk June 8th, 2005 08:46 PM

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I made a mistake making my pretender. Could we go again?

PashaDawg June 8th, 2005 08:58 PM

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A big mistake?

Manuk June 8th, 2005 09:07 PM

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big and stupid

PashaDawg June 8th, 2005 09:21 PM

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

Shmonk June 8th, 2005 10:08 PM

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Hmm... whatever the group wants to do is fine by me.

PashaDawg June 8th, 2005 10:34 PM

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I hate to restart, but I don't want anybody to have a sucky time just because he made a big & stupid mistake designing his pretender. We just started the game. So, we could restart pretty easy without much fuss.

Catquiet June 9th, 2005 12:59 AM

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If we restart, clear Pangaea so I can change my pretender as well.

Dimaz June 9th, 2005 03:33 AM

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I have nothing against restart, although I fear I won't have 2 provinces on turn 2 second time ))

Manuk June 9th, 2005 11:47 AM

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sorry people. Same server?

Cainehill June 9th, 2005 11:50 AM

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Bloody hades.

Sent an email, we'll see whether or not he can easily restart the game. If he does, there's no issue with clearing Pangaea, because everyone has to upload a pretender again.

Just to try and make sure there isn't a need for YAR : make sure to take your pretender into a SP game and make sure it's correct. If you've made another pretender for that nation, make sure the new pretender is one you want for the game, or create another pretender.

Make sure you're creating it with Zen's 2.2 Pretender mod turned on.

Shmonk June 9th, 2005 11:52 AM

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I think we're still waiting on a concensus or response from Cainehill and Ironhawk, assuming the game can be restarted. And if so, we will all be able to upload new pretenders if we want, but just have to stay with the same race. At least that's what I would guess, right?

Edit: Doh! I guess Cainehill's email came right as I was typing mine.

Cainehill June 9th, 2005 03:32 PM

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Incidentally - if Ironhawk can easily restart it for us, I plan to use a revised map file with the pre-existing forts removed. Otherwise, as with this first game, people can grab "free" provinces as soon as turn 1. (And someone starting in #12 or #20 has two fortified free provinces immediately.)

Shmonk June 9th, 2005 03:34 PM

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That would be fine for me. Because if I can't get lucky next time and get a fort next door, I say remove them all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

RibbonBlue June 9th, 2005 04:06 PM

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Restart=okay with me.

Ironhawk June 9th, 2005 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Cainehill said:

Incidentally - if Ironhawk can easily restart it for us, I plan to use a revised map file with the pre-existing forts removed. Otherwise, as with this first game, people can grab "free" provinces as soon as turn 1. (And someone starting in #12 or #20 has two fortified free provinces immediately.)

Caine, I just restarted your game with the same settings as last time - it is no problem for me to do. I was working off the email you sent me tho, and had not seen this message. Rechecked your email and there was no attached map file. Do you want to send that to me and have me restart again? Or just go with what you've got. It's no trouble for me either way.

Edit: speak of the devil! you just sent it... one moment

Ironhawk June 9th, 2005 04:25 PM

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Ok, you game is now restarted using the sharivar_noforts mapfile that Caine sent me.

Everyone re-upload your pretenders now. Please make sure you get it right this time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Shmonk June 9th, 2005 04:37 PM

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Do we need the new mapfile as well, or is that handled by the server?

Alneyan June 9th, 2005 05:08 PM

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Only the creator of a game needs the .map file, so you don't have to worry about it.

Cainehill June 9th, 2005 05:19 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
Hmm. Think everyone will need the map file, attached to this post, since I gave it a new name so I wouldn't overwrite Sachka's original one.

PashaDawg June 9th, 2005 05:26 PM

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I am at work, but I will upload my pretender this evening.

Cainehill June 9th, 2005 06:49 PM

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And remember folks - do not click "Start Game" until all 8 pretenders are in.

Shmonk June 9th, 2005 06:57 PM

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I know we should stay with our original race, but is it possible to change race as well when uploading the pretender? Just checking. I wouldn't change to a race that was already taken, but I was thinking about one of the open ones, maybe changing to one of them.

Cainehill June 9th, 2005 08:39 PM

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Don't see where it would hurt, albeit my hope is that most people will go with what they already have, so we can get the game up and running soon, hopefully tonight.

Nations that were taken :

Abysia
Pythium
Man
Ulm
Caelum
Pangaea
Tien Chi
Jotunheim

Manuk June 9th, 2005 08:56 PM

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Pretender uploaded right this time.

Shmonk June 9th, 2005 09:14 PM

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Pretender for Machaka uploaded (instead of Ulm).

RibbonBlue June 9th, 2005 09:21 PM

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Wait, we can change races?
If so ima take ulm since Shmonk just dropped it.

Shmonk June 9th, 2005 09:22 PM

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Go for it, it's free now.


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