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Arkas July 29th, 2005 03:32 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
tonight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

hint taken.

Arkas July 29th, 2005 08:02 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
uploaded.

thejeff July 29th, 2005 09:29 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Game has been started!!!

It's on quickhost. I don't want to put a time limit till everyone's noticed we've started. I'll set it to 24h quickhost after the first turn is in.

Arholly July 30th, 2005 08:07 AM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Pangea in.

thejeff July 30th, 2005 09:06 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Turn 1:

T'ien Ch'i announced Sun Wu-Kung the Eunuch as prophet.

No provinces taken.
Abyssia has the highest income.
Arcosephale the most research and dominion.
T'ien Ch'i has the largest army.

Ferdinando's Footmen were hired by T'ien Ch'i.

I'm setting the game to 24 quickhost.

Arholly July 30th, 2005 10:01 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Pangea promises to be merciful to everyone who sends us stuff.

ioticus July 31st, 2005 12:03 AM

Re: Newbie Game
 
I can't connect to play my turn, so I guess that means I missed my first turn. I think 24 hour quick host is too short. I work for a living. At that rate, I'll have a lot of stale turns and will have to drop out.

thejeff July 31st, 2005 12:43 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Sorry ioticus, we've started without you.

The server's been up since last weekend. I posted Wednesday saying I'd like to try to start Thursday, partly to bump the thread so people would notice. We actually started Friday.

You hadn't uploaded a pretender or asked for us to wait, so ...

I'd rather not restart (I like my starting location:), but I will if that's the consensus.


As for the 24hr turnaround, at this point it's really only a few minutes once a day. I suspect most of us work for a living. I know I do. I'd be happy to slow it down for special occasions, or once turns get more complicated. I'd expect wars not to start for a week or more even at this rate. If turns are too slow it's hard to keep interest. Stales are bad too though. How long would you want?

ioticus July 31st, 2005 09:06 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
I'd like at least 48 hours. I still can't connect to the server today so I don't know what the problem is.

King Lear July 31st, 2005 10:43 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Abysia needs to take a turn now.

Hubris August 1st, 2005 12:33 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
I'd like at most 24h. Dominions turns are not so complicated that they require tons of time.

Also, we need a *timer*. Has anyone spoken to Abysia? Where is he?

thejeff August 1st, 2005 04:03 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Arkas where are you?

I turned off the timer because I really didn't want anyone to stale this early, but it's gone a bit too long now. Probably a mistake, I won't do it again unless asked.

I'm putting the timer back on, with a couple hours to give him one last chance. Then back to 24.

Unless we do want to restart for Ioticus? It's early, not much to lose yet? Opinions?

thejeff August 1st, 2005 08:19 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Turn 2:

Abyssia announced Bragegol the Anathemant Dragon as prophet.

T'ien Ch'i and Marignon took a province each.
Arcosephale has the highest income and research.
Marignon has the highest dominion.
T'ien Ch'i has the largest army.

Obscuro the Hidden Master is up for Hire.


We're back to 24 hour quickhost.

Arholly August 1st, 2005 10:25 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Pangea is in.

thejeff August 2nd, 2005 07:09 AM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Turn 3:

Arcosephale announced Mideia the Priestess as prophet

Marignon and Abyssia each took a province
Marignon has the highest income
Arcosephale has the highest research
Pangaea and Abyssia have the highest dominion
T'ien Ch'i has the largest army.

Arcosephale hired Obscuro
Ferdinando and Gynter Blukraft are available for hire.

thejeff August 2nd, 2005 01:25 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Well, I've been crippled by what I can only assume is a bug.

My immortal pretender died trying to take my first indie province. In my dominion before, during and after the battle. The battle results show 0 commanders killed, which would be normal for an immortal. But, no pretender in my capital. I believe "Call God" is now an option for my priestess (I'm not at the computer so I can't check.)

I poked around a bit here and it looks like the reincarnation bug, so if anyone got a character with unexpected magic paths I want him back:)

I'm not sure what to say. Later in the game this wouldn't be such a big deal. I'd just turn my priestesses to calling him back. Now, though it's about 5 turns of buying priestesses instead of researchers, at best half the expansion. If it was my fault I'd just suck it up, but to be hurt that bad by a bug really sucks.

Cainehill August 2nd, 2005 02:56 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 

Ouch - so that bug is still there? I posted about it several patches back, and had hoped it was resolved. I'd suggest mailing the relevant files to Illwinter, but I don't think they're doing anything with Dominions 2 anymore. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Lost a phoenix very early in a MP the same way, so I know what you mean about being crippled. I think since then I have subconsciously avoided sending immortals to take provinces that are only dominion 1, which is when I think it happens.

King Lear August 2nd, 2005 03:41 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
theJeff, is the province you attacked now at zero dominion? If so, it makes some sense; the dominion has to be your both turns I think. I agree that it sucks.

Options :
1, we could always restart... not what i hope for, but what the hey.
2, we could each spend 1 or 2 turns where we bought nothing but mages, spreading the hurt out a little. Maybe whoever has the smallest income in game could attack and expand a little evening things out. Not sure how fair this is to everyone.
3, we assume that it was your fault and play on as usuall =) (even though i'm sure its the bug.)

Alneyan August 2nd, 2005 03:44 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Theorically, the province has to be in friendly Dominion when the battle occurs, and that's all: Cainehill had an Immortal Pretender survive a battle in friendly Dominion, though the province switched to neutral Dominion on the next turn; I also think Immortals go back home right after they are killed, and not at the beginning of the next turn.

Oh, and thejeff did write the province was in friendly Dominion both before and after the battle (he wrote that in the Bug thread).

Arholly August 2nd, 2005 04:08 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
I'm game for whatever.

thejeff August 2nd, 2005 05:13 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Yeah, it's still at +1 dominion. It was positive during the battle too, just for extra confirmation. Dominion bonuses to hp and strength.

This never happens in SP of course.

If people were adamantly opposed I'd be willing to play on, and get trashed much earlier than otherwise I'm sure, but I'd much rather restart.

thejeff August 2nd, 2005 07:42 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Turn 4:

Province counts: Marignon 4, T'ien Ch'i 3, Abyssia 3, Arcosephale 2, Pangaea 2
Marignon has the highest income
Marignon found gems
Arcosephale has the highest research
Pangaea has the highest dominion
T'ien Ch'i has the largest army

T'ien Ch'i rehired Ferdinando
Gynter Blukraft is still available for hire.

thejeff August 2nd, 2005 10:06 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Turn 5:

Province counts: Marignon 5, Abyssia 4, T'ien Ch'i 3, Arcosephale 3, Pangaea 2
Marignon has the highest income
Arcosephale has the highest research
Pangaea and Abyssia have the highest dominion
T'ien Ch'i has the largest army

Abyssia hired Gynter Blukraft
The Fishermen are available for hire

Hubris August 3rd, 2005 07:04 AM

Re: Newbie Game
 
I'm not adverse to starting over, though I am doing awfully well. I'd never support screwing someone over through no fault of their own.

Hubris August 3rd, 2005 07:21 AM

Re: Newbie Game
 
LOL. Why do I even bother taking Luck scales... sigh..

thejeff August 3rd, 2005 07:48 AM

Re: Newbie Game
 
Turn 6:

Province counts: Marignon 6, Abyssia 5, T'ien Ch'i 4, Arcosephale 3, Pangaea 2
T'ien Ch'i has the highest income, research and army size
Abyssia has the highest dominion

Arcosephale rehired Obscuro
The Brave Breakers are available for hire

Arkas August 3rd, 2005 03:50 PM

Re: Newbie Game
 
I just got back to checking the boards. Sorry about the weekend I wasnt near my computer from saturday afternoon until monday after work.

I don't mind a restart. that is a heinous bug even though im not doing all that bad.

Arholly August 3rd, 2005 05:49 PM

Action Report: Pangaea
 
Word leaking out of Pangaea is that some sneaky messengers have been caught and executed.

Words is also that gifts were exchanged between Pangaea and another nation, but what nation that is remains a mystery.

thejeff August 3rd, 2005 08:04 PM

No restart.
 
Let's continue anyway. I'm not doing that well, obviously, but I've found a good province, If I'm left alone for a few turns I should be able to recover.

Besides extra bragging rights if I win, a good excuse if I lose. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Arkas: No problem. Glad I decided to wait. Just try to let me know ahead of time and I won't have a problem stopping the timer.

Which brings me to my next problem. I'm going to be away this weekend. Thursday afternoon to sometime Monday evening. I'd like to put it on hold till I get back.

King Lear August 3rd, 2005 08:47 PM

Re: No restart.
 
I'm fine with you having it on hold. Unless of course some people violently object? I'm off for vacation too, but i've got a friend who's agreed to play a couple of turns for me. You better watch out though, he's better then me!

King Lear August 4th, 2005 01:41 AM

Re: No restart.
 
So, if you are thinking to restart the game, I won't be back in until a week from Saturday. Otherwise, my buddy can take my turns for me.

Arholly August 4th, 2005 07:08 AM

Re: No restart.
 
I could not connect this morning and will not be able to take my turn till this evening. Can we please hold at least the current turn for another 24 hours?

thejeff August 4th, 2005 08:21 AM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 7:

Marignon announces Canelious the Grand Master as prophet

Province count: Marignon 6, Abyssia 6, T'ien Ch'i 4, Arcosephale 3, Pangaea 2
T'ien Ch'i has the highest income, research and army size
Abyssia has the highest dominion

T'ien Ch'i rehired Ferdinando
Gynter Blukraft's contract is expiring.

Arholly August 4th, 2005 01:19 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Did you not get the message about waiting? I was unable to connect to the server when I tried and now had a stale turn.

Arholly

thejeff August 4th, 2005 01:39 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Sorry, Arholly. I didn't see your post until after it hosted.

Since I haven't heard any loud protests, I will be stopping the timer for the weekend.

Arkas August 4th, 2005 04:55 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Glad to hear the timer is stopping for the weekend. I was actually going to request at least a bump to 48 hours for the weekend. I am going to a concert directly after work on friday and wouldnt be able to take a turn until at least mid-day saturday.

thejeff August 8th, 2005 10:23 AM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 8:

Province count: Marignon 6, Abyssia 6, T'ien Ch'i 4, Arcosephale 4, Pangaea 2
Arcosephale found gems.
T'ien Ch'i has the highest income, research and army size
Abyssia has the highest dominion


Obscuro's contract is expiring.
Gynter Blukraft is available for hire

Arkas August 9th, 2005 06:32 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Is King Lear going to have his buddy sub for him or not?
or we on hold until the weekend effectively losing a week?

PashaDawg August 9th, 2005 07:55 PM

Re: No restart.
 
FYI: King Lear's buddy was allegedly going to fill in also in a game I am hosting (RAND), but he never responded. So, I played his turn to keep the game moving. It's early in the game, so no biggie. Perhaps, the buddy does not realize that he is on the hook?

Hubris August 12th, 2005 01:07 PM

Re: No restart.
 
I understand we're waiting for King Lear, so this post is not specifically regarding him.

However, if this game doesn't pick up we're gonna have to can it. After 3 days of inactivity I forgot to check for awhile, and just recently remembered that I should continue checking. If it goes on too much longer people are just gonna lose interest.

King Lear August 13th, 2005 08:31 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Sorry everyone, my friend said he could do it, and I'm not sure what happened. i'm giving him a call later on tonight. Other than that though, I'm bakc. Sorry for all the trouble.

thejeff August 13th, 2005 09:53 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 9:

Province count: Marignon 7, Abyssia 7, Arcosephale 5, T'ien Ch'i 4, Pangaea 2
Arcosephale found gems.
T'ien Ch'i has the highest research and army size
Abyssia has the highest dominion and income

Ferdinando's contract is expiring
Obscuro and Gynter Blukraft are available for hire.

thejeff August 13th, 2005 10:34 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Glad you're back, King Lear. No problem by me. These things happen.

But Hubris is right, this game needs to speed up. These are supposed to be the quick easy turns. With no activity, people stop checking. I hesitate to set it back to 24hr until I know everyone's noticed we're moving again.

As a partial fix for that, I've figured out the email notification. If you'll send me an email address, I can have the game email you when the turn runs.
Send to: Britain at silverfool dot com.

thejeff August 15th, 2005 06:47 AM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 10:

Province count: Abyssia 8, Marignon 7, Arcosephale 6, T'ien Ch'i 4, Pangaea 3
T'ien Ch'i found gems.
Marignon has the highest research
Pangaeahas the largest army
Abyssia has the highest dominion and income

T'ien Ch'i rehired Ferdinando
Obscuro, Gynter Blukraft and the Black Fists are available for hire.

thejeff August 16th, 2005 07:33 AM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 11:

Province count: Abyssia 8, Arcosephale 7, Marignon 5, T'ien Ch'i 6, Pangaea 3
Marignon has the highest research
Pangaea has the largest army
Abyssia has the highest dominion and income

Arcosephale hired Obscuro
Gynter Blukraft and the Black Fists are available for hire.

thejeff August 17th, 2005 08:48 AM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 12:

Province count: Abyssia 9, Arcosephale 9, T'ien Ch'i 7, Marignon 4, Pangaea 4
Marignon has the highest research
T'ien C'hi has the largest army
Abyssia has the highest dominion and income
Marignon found gems, T'ien C'hi lost gems

Ferdinando's contract is expiring
Abyssia hired the Black Fists
Gynter Blukraft is available for hire.

thejeff August 18th, 2005 11:16 AM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 13:

Province count: Abyssia 10, Arcosephale 10, T'ien Ch'i 7, Marignon 4, Pangaea 4
Marignon has the highest research
T'ien C'hi has the largest army
Abyssia has the highest dominion and income
Pangaea found gems

T'ien C'hi rehired Ferdinando
Obscuro's contract is expiring
Gynter Blukraft is available for hire.

Arholly August 18th, 2005 01:28 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Rumors of battle between Pangaea and Arcosephale are completely false.

thejeff August 18th, 2005 10:53 PM

Re: No restart.
 
All such rumors are false. Arcosephale is a peace loving nation, dedicated to the study of elemental magic and the worship of the one true god, who has finally returned from his mysterious absence in answer to our frevent prayers.
(It is rumored he was muttering something about insects when he arose again, but the priestesses disagree about what this could mean.)

Any claims of massing armies or plans of conquest are simply vile lies, probably spread to distract from the rumor-mongers own plans.

thejeff August 18th, 2005 10:55 PM

Re: No restart.
 
Turn 14:

Province count: Abyssia 11, Arcosephale 10, T'ien Ch'i 8, Pangaea 4, Marignon 3
Marignon has the highest research
T'ien C'hi has the largest army
Abyssia has the highest dominion and income
Arcosephale and T'ien C'hi found gems. Marignon lost gems.

Arcosephale rehired Obscuro
The Black Fists' contract is expiring
Gynter Blukraft and the Ship Wreckers are available for hire.


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