Re: Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)
 

So...You shot the *launcher* at your ship? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The phrase "to fire an orbital plasma launcher" means that the plasma launcher fires a cohesive ball of fusing plasma. Think like "to fire a cannon"..... Ah what the heck.

*/me just gives up and blasts his brains out*

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Ahh perhaps Strategia wasn't on his ship. Maybe he was shooting it down from orbit.

Strategia's ships comes screaming down from orbit as an immense fireball. The wrecakge crashes into Narf's hole, scattering walls, cheese and bits of Narf over a wide area.

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Musta hit a decoy. I'm in my planatiod, as usual. To much flaming debris hitting the Earth lately.

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So much for a discussion on Sword of the Stars... Perhaps this stuff should be kept in one of the insanity threads?

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On-Topic?...

...Nope, sorry, couldn't find it in the forum dictionary. Besides, it's had about 3 pages. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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You're inside a planetoid??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Re: Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)
 

Yep. A spaceship known as the Murphy's Law...

...Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go stop it from blowing up. Again.

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We'll have none off that 'on-topic' heresy round here me lado.

An on-topic post? On the Shrapnel forums? That's one of the signs of an incoming apocolypse!

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Hides his Mines inside a jammer field and lobs detonating anti-matter torps at everyone from deep inside the field to get their attention while distracting all your guided ordanance with a couple of wild weasel destroyers backed up by a ghosting PD cruiser that goes intangible when you try and hunt it down.

There...back on topic as all that is possible in SOTS http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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I might just be dense, but I couldn't find any message boards at that link.

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif[/img]T

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See the thin red line, just under the logo. About the middle of there the link to the forum, which is a board with messages on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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It is not a very friendly color scheme, black on dark red... Very little contrast.

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of course the button with the big green and white writing on the main page is kind of a dead giveaway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

and as an added bonus, a new gameplay video. Who loves ya?

http://www.kerberos-productions.com/sots.shtml

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Yes, on the Home page it is easy to see (and has a nice "Image Comics" feel to it I might add). But your previous links were to the SOTS page where as Fyron said, it's hard to see. Make it white or pink please.

Registered to forums.

Looking forward to a beta or something to play with.

Turin[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif[/img]

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Hey folks!

Just thought I would pop in and post some update links for any of you that are still interested.


New interview on a spanish site, don't worry the link is to the english version. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

http://jdejuegos.com/jestrategia/sots/sots_art_b02.htm

And some new screens for said interview.

http://jdejuegos.com/jestrategia/sot...;p=1&g=001

The human backstory for SotS has also been added.

http://www.kerberos-productions.com/sots.shtml

as well as many more details of the 3 alien races of SotS being discussed in this alien topic.

http://www.kerberos-productions.com/...c&start=15

Take care and feel free to ask any questions here as I do keep checking in when I can.
--MEC

Re: Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)
 

In case anyone is still interested;) The first hands on preview of SotS is up at...

http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=29599

--MEC

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I need demo! Must show off shiney new video card to Playstation owning friends!

Re: Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)
 

get halflife 2 or doom 3 then! this game looks cool, but it does not look like it will be a challenge on the graphics!

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Well...we don't want to leave older cards behind and so have a nice scale of fx...but the thing to remember is that HL2 or D3 are all about the background sets...they only run a couple dozen fx at the same time on a screen. With a full fleet battle in SotS with shields, cloaking, damage venting, explosions and dozens of weapons systems. It runs 10 or 20 times more fx than a shooter.

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Pretty, yes. But is it moddable?

BTW, I like the illustration of the "lab accident". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Very modable...fully data driven engine.

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Looks interesting, i would've liked to have seen more races to improve diplomatic options, not just 2 vs 2/1.I will keep an eye on the game anyhow.

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I wonder whos idea it was to have six exclamation points in that combat encounter screen!!!1!1one!

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AAsh- Its 8 player...how you do the diplomacy is up to you. As for the number of different races... Well we decided to have 4 that meant something rather than 16 that were just bad skins.

Junkie- I dunno...maybe they were REALLY excited about combat.

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ahh, sorry! I reread my post and realise I sounded really bad like I was taking the mick out of the game!

I am really really sorry! I didnt mean for it to come across like that at all!

Anyway, as far as I think, graphics dont really mean anything! I hated doom 3 (well I dont really like horror games) it was a bad game with just good graphics (apart from the interactive ingame panels! I loved them!), on the other hand, SEIV is poor graphics with brilliant gameplay, and guess which one I am playing years after buying!

As both a regular programmer and game programmer as well, I personally have a diffrent stance to you though, I personally try to target products that I have a role in to play well, but have as good graphics as possible, as far as I think, people get the latest consoles each 2-3 years, but they expect their pc to be able to run the latest games 10 years down the road! I add compatibility where possible for older generation cards, but I dont make it my main target, It just drives me mad for example on the HL2/Steam forums people complaining that the game will not run well or at all on their geforce 2 and lower cards!

anyway, I read a few comments on the first page and the last one, sorry if you mentioned this already, are you going to release a demo to your game soon, and if so, when!?

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No need to be sorry wil, I knew what you were getting at. Was just pointing out that thing where shooters strain your card in the way of a fine painting where space combat games do it in a more fireworks kind of way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif And yeah graphic compatibility is brutal sometimes. I generally ask my team to make to pretties thing they can for the current years tech and then to make sure they can pare features away and still have something playable thats not hideous for older machines.

We are pretty much demo-licious right now and pending final publisher negotiations we will be able to tell you an exact release sate for both game and demo.

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No! Fie your legal mumbojumbo! Demo now! [sanity mode: ON] Right well, HL2 may have fancy physics and all, and Doom 3 might be all scary, but neither one has anything that comes close to the spectacle of a couple hundred beautiful spaceships blowing the living hell out each other.

Maybe it's not quite as Oh-my-freaking-gawd! pretty as Nexus, but I don't care if I can have hundreds of ships instead of dozens. BTW, colour me pissed of at IGN, went over there to see if their trailers were as good as SotS's (they're not) and downloaded what IGN told me were 3 compeletely different trailers, but they ended up just being different resolution versions of the EXACT same trailer, despite IGN telling me they were all 320x240 resolution. Grrrr...

Re: Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)
 

So you have more than 1 empire for each race.Do they have different graphics,race pictures.Can you mod more than 8 empires in a game?

Re: Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)
 

they will have different race pictures. And feel free to mod to your hearts content.

AZ: Are you talking about that jupiter incident game?

Re: Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)
 

I just caught the trailer on G4TV



Looks slick.

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Wow. Talk about a "glowing review..." You handed this guy a coupla $100 Starbucks Cards right when he walked in the door didn't you...

...and I'll bet there were chicks in his hotel room, weren't there...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gifTurin[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif[/img]

P.S. I'm looking forward to the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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We like to think of the game itself as the "hot chick" and he certainly had his hands all over "her". We are thinking of filing a restraining order as he won't stop calling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Yes, yes I am. Sooooo preeeeety. And that's about it. But still, sooooo preeeeety. You mean you haven't played it? Shame! Should be doing your research! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif BTW, if you have any job vacancies for 'researchers' lemme know k? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Ummm not knowing what term you were referring to is not the same as not playing it. Indeed I did play it;) I was a reviewer for most of the 90's...I still have the habit of playin a loooooot of stuff. I found it extremely pretty close up but at most ranges I was shooting at the ships were just lil shiny chunks.

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Forgive my unarticularity. I will attempt to be a bit more clear in the future, though I have no doubt that I will fail miserably.

Ahhhh, the joys of interstellar combat. Tiny little pinpricks hurling even smaller pinpricks back and forth at each other, puctuated occasionally by an impressive pinprick. Still, it's a bit better than Hegemonia (Hegemonia: Legions of Iron, 2002, Dreamcatcher Interactive). That was an extremely pretty game, and still is, but I played nearly the entire game from the strategic map, coz otherwise I got whupped.

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Space games have a rough relationship with "reality". The truth of it all is that "real" space combat is a battle of dots of light and long periods of time. Your basic terrifying yawn fest. Old timers who remember first edition Traveler starship combat rules can attest to the fact that realism is not often your best friend in space games. And I have seen plenty of computer game designs over the years that get infected by this same dubious yen and end up wasting all their pretty art becuase they really want players to shoot at things 10,000 klicks away.

On the other hand I guess the nightmare of the opposite pole would be the Wing Commander movie....<shudder>.

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Hi there people, I didn't feel like starting a new thread and since this thread was about an 'other' game I thought I'd post this link I found at TheGameCreators..

Another 'Other' game.. Can you say 'Elite/Privateer' Plus a whole lot more?


This caused my eyes to glaze over and send my mind on a journey to the past where I have fond memories of Universe II, Elite, Privateer, Starflight, and Sundog... aaah, the good old days.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I've just recently discovered Vegastrike, which takes a little bit of learning but is basically everything Elite II: Frontier should have been. Free, too.

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Yeah, the Starwraith line of games is great. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Meh... I downloaded StarWraith Shadows of Orion and couldn't even get it to work with my Wingman Force joystick. Got frustrated, gave up and went back to Freespace II.

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Probably because it's a one-man job using a second-rate compiler.

But for the money, it's worth it.

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Oh damn... that's right... I PAID for that.

Now I'm more pissed than just frustrated.

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Heads up on a new storyline trailer for SotS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

http://kerberos.filecloud.com/files/..._file_id=85046

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Yup, saw it. Looks like a decent game.

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This aint a true 4xgame like MOO,IG2,GALCIV,etc, this is Homeworld with a starmap.

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Homeworld with a starmap, planetary resource production, industry, terraforming, diplomatic relations, more research, ship design with 3 sections and multiple weapons slots per ship, fuel, random events but yeah, apart from that it's exactly HW with a starmap.

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Yeah yeah only three options for diplomacy, no ground battles,no espionage,no planetary buildings,no trade,etc,etc that is what 4x is all about, moo,civ anyone?

This 4x lite type game has been tried before.Hegemonia: Legions of Iron tried the same very,very lightweight 4X with flashy tactical spacebattles.I hope Sword is a good tactical fleet game with starmovement, but it aint going to reinvigorate a sub-genre like their website claims, because it doesn't represent it.Galciv2 will do that fine thankyou,without the dumbing down.

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And Galciv wasnt dumbed down? Oh no! My spacey-ship got hit with enemy spacey-beam and went from 3 pegs to 1! Oh no! Better move spacey-ship back to port to get 2 pegs back. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

If Sword of the Stars dumbed down some diplomacy but added real tactical combat, I'd call them both dumbed down in their own way.

If GalCiv "represented" 4x, I wouldn't play 4x anymore.

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Galciv2 you clown.