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Gandalf Parker, are you dismissing FPSs as worthless games?

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Money is relative depending on how much someone has available. Ioticus could be some multi-millionaire where $1000.oo is the same percentage of money as someone else who spends $25.00 at the movies with a date. Personally I wouldn't go beyond $70.oo... someone else mentioned spending as much as $100.oo. Each gamer interested in the Dominions_3 has a different percentage they are willing to spend. Personally I feel the game is overpriced by $10.oo in the current market.

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I'm not sure how much I'd pay for the game. Much, maybe up to, say, 100€, I think. Maybe more.

However, I won't mind paying whatever Shrapnel asks for, because the money goes for more games. Illwinter isn't getting rich, and neither is Shrapnel Games. If I thought they asked for money just because they could, I'd be much more reserved about spending my money on their products. Although that is only Dominions for me...

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FPS games arent worthless. I enjoy some. IF they have alot of setup such as a mechwarrior or carwarrior game. Or anything where stealth and logical movement such as military use is a benefit over just running in with the fastest trigger finger.

On the pricing, I dont think we can gauge overprising yet. There are many games priced that high and I dont think we have all seen enough to price it compared to the market. Also we would have to gauge it against the average, not against the best available at certain prices.

In fact, come to think of it, personally I think there are a ton of games out priced as high as Dom3 that I consider be below Dom2.

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ok, but i never see any game priced over $50 so I have no idea what you're talking about. Some games used to be over $50 but that was like 4 freaking years ago. By your description of a "non-worthless FPS" I don't see why you don't like Battlefield 2. One time me and a clan member made our way from karkand to the US base using some good teamwork.

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Check back. I said I hadnt looked at Battlefield.

And I thought you mentioned a MMO (monthly charge? That could get pricey quick enough).
And also Oblivion? I did a check and that lists at 59.99

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What's really surprising are the MMO games... where people pay a monthly fee ranging from $9.99 to as much as $29.99. This is in addition to purchasing the game.

Personally computer gaming would have to provide me a virtual reality where the RPG experience would actually provide good exercise before I would pay a monthly fee totally around $250 a year.

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Actually I tend to get in on most MMO's. The cost isnt a problem for me. But the only ones Ive kept kept tend to be free ones which might say something. One mud (which I host), Diable II (if you think of it as a MMO), and Ultima Online which I got disgusted with until I discovered the free servers which do it much better. SWG was ok for awhile, and CoH. I might go back to those sometime.
That reminds me.. I need to cancel DnD online.

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Gandalf, have you ever tried WoW? I was playing it for like 4-5 months. It was awesome firstly..but after 4 months I was full with l60 tier 2 epics, and I couldnt do anything really, just wait for the next new instance. So WoW is pretty boring after a period. I still login sometime, but only just to talk with my buddies there. WoW's greatest power is the server's community, you can make lot of online friends, and the game sucks you in, regardless that its really boring, when you got all the best items in the game..

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That's all too true. I know the UO shards still have my heart, somewhere... All I need is a nice shard (I'm trying real hard to avoid that), and I'll probably go back to the game. Even Linux won't offer enough protection, as there are some clients running natively here, I think. One of the French shards I'm most interested in seems to be slowly edging towards its public opening now... Ha, the temptation. But I digress.

How was that one? I know I didn't hold my breath for it, but it does come from Turbine. Asheron's Call has always struck me as being particularly interesting, but I never got the chance to play the game.

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Guys if you want to play a good mmorpg, wait for 1. Warhammer Online, 2. Age of Conan, 3. Vanguard ... but skip WoW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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I play (and admin some) on Shazzy's Shard. A husband and wife team (he admins and she is the programmer). Its nice and adult with almost no support for PvP at all. The numbers dropped due to a gap while they moved but usually its just enough players to keep an economy going and get up groups to do some champions, but not so many that you cant have a house in the wilderness and have it actually BE wilderness instead of looking like some suburb. Oh yeah, and like most games I like, I host the site for free www.ShazzyShard.org

DnD-O was OK. It was sone well enough but basically the same complaint as I had with City of Heroes. Lots of work put into the game but then they dropped it on the quests. There is only so many times I can stand doing the same thing over and over. If they had put less work into the graphics and effects, and more into quests Id be happier. Like Diablo II which is quick to get into, lets me run other things at the same time to flip back and forth, and is free to play.. then I pop it up sometimes for a change the way I do D-II

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Heh, now my brother pre-ordered Doms 3. today. This is like a miracle, he was like "no i wont order it until I see the demo"..but then again he realized that me + our little Doms community here [local friends] gonna buy Doms 3. and play that only via TCP/IP. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

PS. Gandalf how come that you are still playing with UO? I never played it, but my oldest brother did...he says that the game is like 10 years old. Is it free to play now, or you still gotta pay for it? I played with many mmorpgs [got a rank 14 orc warrior in wow for example, but I stopped playing with it, also I was playing with EQ and Shadowbane]..but I never had a chance to try out UO.

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I really liked the completness of the UO world. The economy, the quests, the variety you could have in day-to-day living. But the official servers filled up with griefers, and just plain FILLED UP. The "wilderness" where you could build a house become crowded suburbs and you were fighting deep wilderness type monsters in tight alleys between houses packed as tight as they could get.

But like many games, its saved by user efforts. There are now over 300 player run servers. All different styles. Some majorly PvP, some cranked up in monster strength, some so creatively rewritten as to be a completely new world.

The one Im on is run by a husband and wife team, about 30 people at a time on it. Enough for some real economy, and some team work. But not so many that you cant find a spot in the wilderness to build and have no neighbors if you want.
As MMO's go its a comfortable virtual retirement for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Gandalf Parker
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Hey my wife loves me playing Ultima Online.
I get to pack-rat, try my hand at making things, visit other peoples
junk sales, kill & skin animals... all the things she hates me doing in
our garage.

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Furcadia is where it's at http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

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I hear it's fun for the whole family. Avoid that John Matrix guy, though.

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Oh I see Gandalf, I just visited some old UO sites, the game looks fun indeed. I guess UO must be the mother of all MMORPGs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif


Hm I never heard about Furcadia, Im gonna check it out.

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Even for the litter? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I would never inflict the horror of Furcadia on poor, innocent puppies.

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Oh where has the time gone?!?! I must be getting REALLY old...

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Hm....this Furcadia looks very weird to me. What is this game about exactly? I downloaded the necessary files, started the game, and I've found myself on a screen, where I could choose that what animal to play with. Is this game for very young people? It looks like that at least, however I might be wrong, because I wasnt looking at it more, I quitted after the first screen, it was a bit silly to play with a rabbit who walks on 2 feet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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To get to the real fun in Furcadia, you have to click the FurN button under the "B" tab in your interface.

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I will explore the game a bit more of course, I never uninstall anything after 5 mins of playtime. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Btw Naked, take a look at your private messages please, when you gonna have some freetime for it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

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Eh? Just checked and there's nothing new in there. I've replied to everything, I think.

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Hm Ive sent a message to you about Crown of Glory.

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What about a commando killer rabbit who hunts down his enemies with vengeanve? That game is called Lugaru. It's strange, but also very good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Oh yeah, I got that. Thanks.

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Hehe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif