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Captain Kwok May 29th, 2006 05:27 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Research/intel in SE:IV proceeds by individual projects, while you can set the % of research/intel to spend on projects in SE:III or SE:V.

Combat Wombat May 29th, 2006 06:23 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

AAshbery76 said:
I'm wondering if the ground combat plays as terrible as it looks.Maybe the ground stuff was a waste of development time.

Well consider how the ground combat looked in se4....now consider some more. There! I think you've got it ground combat in se4 was just a screen with the units listed then it did some damage calculations and decided how the battle went. With se5 the screenshots would indicate you finally have some tactical control over combat even if it is crude it is a massive improvemnt over se4.

Randallw May 29th, 2006 11:08 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
It looks like it will be another 2 months. The Malfador site says August 06.

Ed Kolis May 29th, 2006 11:23 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
I hit refresh repeatedly and it still says June... is there anything else new over there?

Randallw May 29th, 2006 11:27 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
can't see any new screenshots but it says on the SE5 site

Full Release Date August, 2006

Kamog May 29th, 2006 11:51 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
August... OK, but I can't help wondering if it's going to be delayed yet again and it's going to be October, or maybe even December. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Suicide Junkie May 30th, 2006 12:14 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Don't worry. We will let you know when the game is ready.

In the meantime, join some PBW games!

Atrocities May 30th, 2006 02:14 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
SEIV is always going to be a successful game in its own right and I will bet a ship set, that it will remain popular long after SE V has been released. As it stands, I am as excited as a father of a 16 year old girl on prom night as I wait for the release of SE V. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Ed Kolis May 30th, 2006 11:22 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
In other words, Atrocities, you think someone's gonna get screwed? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Captain Kwok May 30th, 2006 11:31 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
No. But I think that some elements of SE:IV like the ability to easily add shipsets and the existing mod base and pbw system will keep it going for some time.

Yimboli May 30th, 2006 09:40 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
i think that was the perfect reply Ed!!!!!

Hey I just checked strategy first's website, it lists winter 06 as the release date. Does anyone know why there's a disconnect between the publisher and the creator? surely someone must have seen this by now...

http://www.strategyfirst.com/en/games/SpaceEmpiresV/

Will May 30th, 2006 09:55 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Well, thus far, neither Malfador or Strategy First has seemed to be overly concerned about updating their websites. The disconnect between the two sources is probably just because of the scarcity of updates on the part of both.

And hey, technically, it still could be a Winter 2006 release. That would mean it is released sometime between 21 December, 2006, and 31 December, 2006.

August would be nicer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Captain Kwok May 30th, 2006 09:55 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
It's more a case of poor updating by both sites. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

dogscoff May 31st, 2006 06:12 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Atrocities said:
SEIV is always going to be a successful game in its own right and I will bet a ship set, that it will remain popular long after SE V has been released. As it stands, I am as excited as a father of a 16 year old girl on prom night as I wait for the release of SE V. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I'm warning you boy, if I hear of any tactical hotseat action tonight I'll be after you with my ripper beam...

Escaflowne June 1st, 2006 08:07 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
LOL @ dogscoff

wow, I think that was even better then Ed's.
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Atrocities June 1st, 2006 08:17 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

dogscoff said:
Quote:

Atrocities said:
SEIV is always going to be a successful game in its own right and I will bet a ship set, that it will remain popular long after SE V has been released. As it stands, I am as excited as a father of a 16 year old girl on prom night as I wait for the release of SE V. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I'm warning you boy, if I hear of any tactical hotseat action tonight I'll be after you with my ripper beam...

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geoschmo June 1st, 2006 08:30 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Doesn't winter of '06 include up until march of '07? Like it's "The winter that begins in '06".

psimancer June 1st, 2006 11:31 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
actually as far as this hot weather texan is concerned the north of texas winter doesnt stop ever

i mean come on when u go to cincinatti oh and the new boss is apologizing for the heat wave and all you did was step outside the building to defrost in august weather t 82 degrees outside and 68 inside the building sheesh at that time back home was a over heated 97 (all fahrenheit sorry euros)

Renegade 13 June 2nd, 2006 12:11 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

psimancer said:
(all fahrenheit sorry euros)

And Canadians http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Fahrenheit...doesn't Celsius make so much more sense? At least it's based on something physical. 0° water freezes, 100° water boils. Logical!

Today was quite a hot day for the beginning of June, and it was about 24°C/75°F. I was outside and just about dying from the heat!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

The hottest we ever get up here (central BC, Canada) is about 32°C/90°F. I feel like (and sometimes do...) crawl in the freezer! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Then again...I'd like to see a Texan such as yourself when we hit -49°C/-56°F http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img]

Fyron June 2nd, 2006 12:47 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
75 F? Man, that is a nice day! I don't even want to know what the temperature was around here today. *melts thinking about it* Silly cattle rancher! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Farenheit set the human body temperature at about 100 F and the 0 at the lowest temperature he could measure, so it is not exactly illogical.

Will June 2nd, 2006 12:51 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
Fahrenheit...doesn't Celsius make so much more sense? At least it's based on something physical. 0° water freezes, 100° water boils. Logical!

Hey, Fahrenheit isn't really illogical. 32° water freezes, 212° water boils. Logical!

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DarkAnt June 2nd, 2006 12:57 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Fahrenheit makes pefect sense. A naturally occuring sick cow is 100 degees fahrenheit.

Renegade 13 June 2nd, 2006 01:25 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Will said:
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
Fahrenheit...doesn't Celsius make so much more sense? At least it's based on something physical. 0° water freezes, 100° water boils. Logical!

Hey, Fahrenheit isn't really illogical. 32° water freezes, 212° water boils. Logical!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Since we use a base-10 system, 0 and 100 are a little more logical...and easier to remember http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Renegade 13 June 2nd, 2006 01:29 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
75 F? Man, that is a nice day! I don't even want to know what the temperature was around here today. *melts thinking about it* Silly cattle rancher! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

By any chance, did you write this post while eating a steak?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_Canada.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_Canada.gif[/img]

Quote:

Farenheit set the human body temperature at about 100 F and the 0 at the lowest temperature he could measure, so it is not exactly illogical.

True, but he messed even that up since avg. body temperature is 98.6°F if memory serves. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Atrocities June 2nd, 2006 08:56 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
One year, back in 92, we had a heat wave here and I was working night shift for the big Red S. One morning, after a grooling night stocking and cleaning, the manager came in and ripped us a new one because the work wasn't done. I asked him if he had slept well that night, and he rather rudely responded by saying, "No, the heat kept me awake." I smiled slightly and said in response, now imagine how hot is for us, we sleep during the day. He never *****ed again during the heat wave.

geoschmo June 2nd, 2006 08:57 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
The farenheit system was designed for weather tracking so if you think about it a temperature scale from 0 to 100 makes pretty good sense as most temperatures throughout the year fall in that range. At least in Europe where the scale was invented.

psimancer June 2nd, 2006 05:33 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
whilst i find all point here regarding the fahrenheit system valid and many informative as to its origin
i am unfortunatly stuck in the most backward progressive section of a progressive bassackwards country

as our country in the 70's was to adopt the metric system sprovisionally to globalize world measurement systems and allow for more effecient trade
over 20 years later we're still half n half
ex gallon of milk vs 3 liters of coke (source local store)
i was as a teen all for going all metric that yeazr i mean come on a sytstem of measurement that can convert from length to area to volume using two units of measure instead of having to use up 17 (seems like) sq ft hectares miles ounces galons drams sheesh i keep a book just to figure em all out


i still wish we could go all metric worldwide i feel it would be a first crawl towaards the global identity we might develope in another 500 years

also how far are we from the release now um 8 weeks ????

Hunpecked June 2nd, 2006 08:16 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
Since we use a base-10 system, 0 and 100 are a little more logical...and easier to remember http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Logical? Are you kidding? Basing a number system on the (usual) number of digits on half the limbs of ONE primate on ONE lousy planet in the whole universe? What about primates with 20 prehensile digits? What about primates with a prehensile TAIL? What about who-knows-how-many inhabitants with who-knows-how-many extremities living on uncounted worlds in umpteen zillion galaxies?

No, far better to base a number system on a more universal standard, such as the number of leptons in a hydrogen molecule (2), carbon atom (6), or an oxygen molecule (16) (alternate suggestions welcome).

As for temperatures, again it seems rather silly to base a scale on phase shifts of an arbitrary chemical compound under conditions prevailing only at a particular distance from the center of a particular planet. Note that the somewhat more rational "Kelvin" or "Absolute" scale at least has a universal zero point, but that scale puts the boiling point of water (1 atm pressure) at 373.125 degrees, which is not exactly the kind of round number we're looking for. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif If we must use water as a benchmark, I'd suggest setting the triple point of water (273.16 degrees Absolute and .006 kilopascals pressure) to a round number (e.g. 100 degrees Rational in base 10 or 16 notation) and working from there.

I understand how inconvenient it will be to switch to a truly rational system, but I just know we'll be the laughingstocks of the galaxy (if we're not already) should we be caught using our current provincial number and temperature scales when "they" make contact. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

And for those who made it through the whole rant, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Yimboli June 2nd, 2006 09:00 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
how absurd for heiroglyphics to demonstrate counting by powers of 10! clearly the authors should have had the clairvoyance to see past their 10 sausages and think about the countless little green men living on the bright dots in the night sky. the stars are, after all, quite visible from the desert. besides little green men even helped them with the pyramids! dont aliens have 6 fingers total?

e is the number little green men could most likely relate to us with. so make a base e temperature system! there ya go... er... wait, that makes no sense at all. here's an idea - lets make a system that people can USE!! fahrenheit! celcius! kelvin! w00t!

QED

Kamog June 2nd, 2006 10:57 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Why should the number for temperature get bigger for hot and smaller for cold? Couldn't we have just as valid a temperature scale with, say, freezing point of water = 100 and boiling point of water = 0? Then when temperature goes up, it will be colder and when temperature goes down, it will be warmer.

Atrocities June 2nd, 2006 11:04 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
You know what, you all just wasted 20 minutes of my day, 20 minutes that I no longer have, reading these posts about what... temperature.... Dudes, W T F!

Renegade 13 June 2nd, 2006 11:12 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Can't use 100 as freezing and 0 as boiling. Since 100 is much greater than 0, and the energetic kinetic motion of water molecules are greater while boiling than while freezing, it just makes sense to have the greater value with the greater value, and vise versa.

Not to mention the fact that having huge negative numbers for extremely hot events would be a pain in the arse! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Will June 3rd, 2006 02:23 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
But I like cold more than I like heat. So colder = bigger number = better!

If we were to be truly logical though, I say we should measure things in terms of some combination of the sums, multiples, and powers of e, pi, and phi.

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Renegade 13 June 3rd, 2006 02:12 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
You have a point there Will.

I too like cold temps. much more than warm ones. My reasoning is simple; it's a lot easier to warm up if you're cold (put more clothes on) than it is to cool off if you're hot!

Defining our numbering systems by e, pi, phi would be...not fun for someone like me who isn't exactly a huge fan of math. Not to mention the fact that little kids would have a really hard time learning how to count!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

narf poit chez BOOM June 3rd, 2006 09:29 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
No, no, no...You're all wrong!

We should all count in base alphabet!

Will June 4th, 2006 03:44 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:My reasoning is simple; it's a lot easier to warm up if you're cold (put more clothes on) than it is to cool off if you're hot!

Ah, you still have much to learn, grasshopper. The best way to warm up when you're cold is to attach yourself to a member of your prefered sex, and warm up together. But that's off topic...

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Renegade 13 June 5th, 2006 12:31 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Will said:
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Renegade 13 said:My reasoning is simple; it's a lot easier to warm up if you're cold (put more clothes on) than it is to cool off if you're hot!

Ah, you still have much to learn, grasshopper. The best way to warm up when you're cold is to attach yourself to a member of your prefered sex, and warm up together. But that's off topic...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Indeed it would be the best way to warm up, but as I'm not on such friendly terms with any member of the opposite sex, I'm afraid I'll have to stick with clothes for now! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../firedevil.gif

Yimboli June 8th, 2006 12:03 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Once again I want to shoot myself for checking this thread.

there's a faint hope lingering in my mind's recesses... i keep thinking maybe one day someone will post a link to Aaron's update on the SE5 release date...

i'm barely holding on!

dogscoff June 8th, 2006 05:49 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Hunpecked said:
I understand how inconvenient it will be to switch to a truly rational system, but I just know we'll be the laughingstocks of the galaxy (if we're not already) should we be caught using our current provincial number and temperature scales when "they" make contact.

Maybe we should all adopt Marain now: http://homepages.compuserve.de/Mostr...el/marain.html

I'm sure they have some sperlatively sensible measurement systems.

Raging Deadstar June 8th, 2006 07:46 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
Quote:

Will said:
Ah, you still have much to learn, grasshopper. The best way to warm up when you're cold is to attach yourself to a member of your prefered sex, and warm up together. But that's off topic...

Y'know, with advice like that I can just picture Will as some mystical sage/socrates like man, travelling the world bringing simple solutions to life's many problems http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Randallw June 13th, 2006 07:22 AM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
For whatever reason Malfador now says Winter 2006. I don't know exactly when this is. It's winter now here so I guess that would make it something like 5 or 6 months still to go http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Kamog June 15th, 2006 01:18 AM

Re: SE5 release is 6 months away!
 
Hmm, you're right, now instead of August 2006 it's Winter 2006. That's disappointing, but not entirely unexpected. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Aiken June 18th, 2006 06:16 PM

Re: SE5 release is 6 months away!
 
Oh, sure, marketing deps and their genious realease strategies. This Christamas-day obsession is getting really annoying.
I'd prefer summer '06 with monthly patches (like HoMM5).

/me dreams about public beta now.

Captain Kwok June 18th, 2006 06:45 PM

Re: SE5 release is 6 months away!
 
I don't think it has anything to do with wanting to release it for December as a marketing ploy. It's just not going to be done until Fall etc.

Raapys June 18th, 2006 09:39 PM

Re: SE5 release is 6 months away!
 
Hasn't the beta testing period lasted for an unusual long time? I once beta tested a game, Stronghold 1, and I don't think we were going on for much more than 3-4 months or so.

Suicide Junkie June 18th, 2006 09:55 PM

Re: SE5 release is 6 months away!
 
Did that game:
A) Have more than one coder?
B) Have lots of in-house testing done beforehand?
C) Have non-moddable gameplay/physics?
D) Lack fanatical beta testers?

Raapys June 18th, 2006 10:31 PM

Re: SE5 release is 6 months away!
 
The testers were pretty dedicated, but the game was, of course, rushed out the door long before beta testing was done. I'd just think the same would have happened to SEV, being a small company at the mercy of big developers, etc.

Fyron June 19th, 2006 07:41 PM

Re: SE5 release is 6 months away!
 
The only developer involved is MM. S1st isn't exactly a "big publisher" compared to something like EA or Atari.

Spectarofdeath June 21st, 2006 09:29 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
I bet the beta testers have forgotten that their "testing" it and are just completly lost having fun with it. :-) j/k I'd rather have a finished product then something half finished and then patched 4 times before it works properly.

Caduceus June 21st, 2006 10:31 PM

Re: SE5 release is only 3 weeks away!
 
I'm not in the beta, but I can assure you spectar, they're working hard.


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