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this venting would be more productive if we weren't talking past eachother.

we all need to find a middle ground here.

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Ok. SE5's UI is [censored]. I haven't even played it enough to run into the bugs because of the UI. How's that for middle ground?

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Good point Fyron. I don't. I guess forced was a bad choice of words. Prompted perhaps?

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Very interesting choice of words. (I agree with Fyrons response to this comment.)

Additionaly, I make no apologies for Malfador or SFI. They knew what they were doing when they chose to do it. All I have ever tried to do is point out two simple facts. 1. That Aaron made this game on his own at his own expense with no support or help from any other developer or publisher aside from his usual outstanding team of artists that have colaborated with him in the past. All of the programing is his work. And 2. that despire being released in such a poor condition, the game will improve and that is entirely do to the feed back that Aaron recieves from the people who play the game.

I hope that this clears up any false presumptions. And if you want to flame people, go back to the MOO3 forums where you belong.

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frightlever are you by chance from the old MOO3 forums? Are you here from there to do what most people did to that forum after the abysmal POS Masters Of Orion 3 was released? If so I would hope that you wouldn't.

While SE V has its flaws, it kicks the hell out of MOO3 and SFI and Malfador have done a better job supporting SE V than those vile POS bastards who developed and released MOO3 ever did for that game.

These forums here at Shrapnel are a decent place to come and post. However if all you want to do is pick on people and attack a game that you don't like, then go to the official SpaceEmpresV web site and complain there.

That is your right, but frankly hearing your incessant babble here is getting on my nerves and while I have made some rude comments recently for which I am deeply embarrassed, I will put my foot back into my mouth one more time, and extend you one last courtesy; SE V is and will be a game that shall be played for a very long time. Its really a shame that you don't see this, and one can only hope that you will eventually choose to stop playcating us with your "blame them" comments and move forward into constructive and productive posting.

I think that if you had bothered to look up any of Fyrons post you will see that he has been here over five years and that 99% of his posts have all been on topic and helpful, unlike any of your current posts!

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Atrocities, you forgot the morale support of Aaron's many many customers and fans.

SE5 might be buggy, but so was SE3 and 4 when they came out. Hell, I remember the infamous SE3 patch that effectively killed the game outright, yet the fans remained. Why? Because they didn't make apologies for Aaron to disgruntled customers, they either re-installed the game or patiently waited on SE3's download page hitting "Refresh" in anticipation.

Anyone with a problem with the game right now, just be patient for the patches and report your bugs to Aaron as you encounter them.

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Well said Azselendor. Well said.

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This one comment alone shows your maturity. You are a child point blank! A man knows how to admit a mistake; apologies if warranted, learns and grows. And with that I am done, you can say I’m angry or whatever label makes you feel better about your actions. I stand by my words, you are a child and I am tired of your pointless prattle and uncalled for insults. Move back to the hole you came from and take your vile putrid hate with you!

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Guys, will you quit flaming each other? Please? Especially Atrocities, you're SUPPOSED to be a moderator... is it going to come down to Mindi or somebody coming here and taking that power away from you??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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For goodness sakes Ed! Frightlever is way out of lines, twice now! You are asking what it’s going to take to calm things down? Well I ask what do we have to endure before something is done about him? I understand he [Atrocities] may be a moderator but defense is never unjust. It may be unjustified at times but not this one. Seriously how many people does Frightlever have to call dicks and propagandists first?

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As many people as it takes before people start ignoring him?

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True, you have me there! Until he labels me a dick.

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The review on Gamespot was done in Nov. of 2000 by Bruce Geryk so I'm pretty sure it's the original game.

Here's the link to the SEIV review: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...pace%20empires

Maybe it's the biases of the reviewer's that's coming into play. I know that Bruce Geryk is a hardcore boardgamer and computer strategy gamer. I don't recognize the SEV reviewer.

Just for the sake of discussion what happen's if SEV never rises above mediocrity even after all the bug's are fixed? I know Aaron can create a better game and I for one would rather see him move on to SEVI than to spend a large amout of time fixing SEV if that game turns out to be no good.

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A couple of observations:

1. When people are disappointed in a purchase, ESPECIALLY one they were looking forward to, you are likely to hear complaints.

2. Complaining, even venting, is healthy. It releases stress.

3. Trying to argue with someone who is venting is no win situation. It's best to let the venting just go. Every forum should have a venting thread.

4. There is actually a good side to public venting. If the developer feels enough heat, then perhaps they might hold off on the next release until the proper quality level is reached. It's called a feedback loop and its the way the world works. It's neither bad or good.

My $0.02

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Exactly... whether you meant to or not I think you've agreed with EK at a very basic level. Ed said to stop flaming him. Ignoring him would require that you not flame. Can we let this thread die?



Dingbat, well put. Not the whole story, but well put.

Re: SE5 gets some... \"recognition\"
 

Ed read my posts. I haven't flamed any one and the one time I did flame someone I apologized for it. I think the best course of action now is to simply move foward and leave this tangent in the past.

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Very good observation. Well stated.

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I have the SEV Demo. I didn't like the way the game handled. I will hold off purchasing the game until it is ready. It’s a simple concept. I appreciate the ability to have a demo to make my choice with. Much better then buying the game AND THEN finding out it doesn’t’ work. If you bought the game before trying the demo then you probably shouldn’t be out there shopping in the first place. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Locked, locked, locked.