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You could still just drop bombs on them. Slow stuff goes through the shield as witness the ground invasion, then Blammo.

Another very easy way would be to have a ground-hugging tank roll in, and deploy a nuke. Everything on the surface gets slagged, in particular turrets and shields, and then you can take prisoners from inside the base to interrogate.

Or sit back and siege them for a little while... big shields must take a ton of power to operate, and you only have to threaten to fire to force them to keep it up.

Or, why not fire back with a similar weapon. Disable the base systems, then slag the defenses, then you win.

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BTW, if the ATs are too heavy, then legs are an extremely bad idea for propulsion. Treads would be tougher, faster, have more traction and spread the weight better over weak surfaces (such as ice).

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Really, the only place walkers are better are in really rough terrain.

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If you truly understood nerds, you'd realize that the only point of stuff like that is to justify getting the girl. There is absolutely no point in saving the universe if it doesn't get you laid by a beautiful princess (or a reasonable facsimile thereof)...

As a nerd who married a beautiful doctor from a family of doctors, I can assure you that getting the girl - when the girl is a beautiful princess - is much better than getting paid for taxi services.

...but pretty much beside the point, in the context of the first movie & a hypothetical Star Wars series that remained true to the spirit of the first movie.

That would have gone beyond realism (as opposed to romantic fantasy) into absurdity. I supposed you could have introduced Jar Jar a movie earlier & had him get the girl, too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Then only if the walkers are much more nimble than portrayed in SW...

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The rebels should have just deployed a minefield around the base, think a bouncing betty with mini proton torps. Luke alone, not even having gone to dagobah yet was able to take one out ON HIS OWN!! If Vader wanted prisoners he should have gotten his big metallic a$$ down there and went anakin on them all. And don't try to say he couldn't have done that, no jedi to oppose him but luke, and even if they knew he was coming I seriously doubt they could have stopped him.

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why is this thread still alive?

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Because we're bashing star wars??

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Oh, well in that case please carry on.

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There is a lot of difference between Chewie and Jar Jar. For one thing, Chewie has fans.

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Not to mention Chewie had more character and expression, without uttering a single word (that we could understand, anyway!)

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Chewie takes dumps that are tougher then the entire gungan race. The best thing they could have done is show Anakin going off on Jar Jar and have him behead him in a cool slow mo execution scene.

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Yeah, Chewie is cool forever (and screw whichever author claims that he "gave his life to save some Jedi brat" nonsense, and screw Lucas for giving the ok on letting someone write that kind of crap). Jarjar does things with goats in hell that, were I to detail them, would get me banned from this forum forever. The guy who played him was twice the actor (and gave twice the performance) that the actors playing Anakin and Amidala were in the movie, though, I will say that much. It's a shame too, because I really like Natalie Portman as an actress. Even Samuel L "Explitive-YOU!" Jackson was a little off in the movies.

Jedi aren't supposed to get married, they're not supposed to have sex, and they play with light-sabres. Yeah, I would too. My take on Mitochondria is that George read or played Parasite Eve and liked the idea so much he stole it.
Apparently, he's a big Japanophile (I am too, so this isn't really George Lucas-bashing in and of itself, it means you dig Japanese things/culture) so that makes sense.

Atleast they didn't totally screw up with Yoda. Yoda's my favorite, and within the boundaries of the bad going on in the movies, they managed to atleast give good Yoda. Ian McDairmid easily gave the best performance in the movies, followed closely by Christopher Lee, Liam Neeson, and Ewan McGregor.

There are bad spots in the movie, and there are good spots. Overall, I think some really skilled editor with plenty of CGI could fix the first three movies into something more than just watchable.

One thing I will say though, Star Wars was fantasy, was intended to be fantasy, remains fantasy. It's just not and never has been science fiction, let alone HARD science fiction. It just dresses up in science fiction's clothes, calls itself "Sheila", and goes to bars to pick up men. And so all the stupid bits that we can look at and say "that's just plain silly" were done for effect, not based on reason.

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Those damn EWOKS. The Empire was defeated by a bunch of teddy bears!!! Only, and I do mean this, ONLY George Lucas could think of such a STUPID way of defeating the most powerful galatic empire of all time. F**king warrior teddy bears.

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Ewoks are midget wookies, no wonder they kicked *** lol

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Mitochondria?
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May the Ewoks be with you!!! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Panda.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Teddy.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Peace.gif[/img]

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Did anyone see the Parade of Roses(or whatever they call it) on new years day? George was the grand marshal and thee were 2 huge star wars themed floats, they also had the 501st marching in the parade.

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He meant midichlorians.

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Yes. Yes he did. But he said "Mitochondria."

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Where are you getting your information from? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif Empire Strikes Back hit theaters in 1980. Battletech was released in 1984. So how could ESB incorporate ideas from something that didn't exist at the time?

The original concept for the Imperial vehicles was a gigantic wheeled APC. You may have recognized them, as they were reused in Ep3 (the HAVw A6 "Turbo Tank" Juggernaught on Kashyyyk). According to Wookiepedia , Lucas got the idea for the AT-AT from War of the Worlds, although their actual movements were modelled after elephants (as already mentioned).

Reading your other arguments, it seems you were looking for a standard, completely cliche plotline. I can't stand movies/books like that, and hopefully I'm not the only one. It's so boring constantly seeing the "good guy" get the girl, the "evil empire" destroyed, and everyone living happily ever after. How about something at least slightly original for a change? Something *not* churned out by 99% of Hollywood?

Films where:
1) the protagonist, or the protagonist's love interest, dies at the *end* of the film, ending everything on a depressing note. (All Quiet on the Western Front, Stalingrad)
2) the good guy experiences something that turns him into a murderous bastard as bad or worse than the "bad guys" (V for Vendetta)
3) There are no good guys, only different shades of bad (Payback, Pitch Black/Chronicles of Riddick).

Or other situations that actually bear some resemblance to actual human experiences, instead of overblown and idealized characters and outcomes.

All of the above is why I really enjoyed Episode III, despite it's numerous failings. It's probably #2 or #3 on my "Fav Star Wars movie" list, with Empire Strikes Back @ #1 for similar reasons. The arrogance of the Jedi comes home to roost in a big way, the protagonist loses his love interest (largely through his own stupidity, can't blame the "evil empire" for that one), his value system is turned upside-down causing him to commit all manner of atrocities, and the cunning, manipulative, power-hungry bastard pulling his strings ascends to the throne (a just reward for being a cunning, manipulative, power-hungry bastard....and a pretty good fighter to boot).

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I wonder if George Lucas ever dresses up like a Jedi and runs around his house play The Force? What do you think would George be a Jedi or a Sith?

What would George's Jedi name be? How about his Sith name?

Does hey make the swaishing light saber sounds, or does he have one of those super expensive sabers that do all that sound stuff for you?

What color is his sable blade? I think pink perhaps even vivid pink.

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Darth Gona Sooya?

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Good point. Sadly, that aspect was dramatized SO poorly! Could have been so much better, so easily...